Could you please help me identify the following period swords. I appreciate any help you can provide.
Thanks in advance,
Jean-François
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Do you mean sword types or individuals? Because the first looks like a side-sword the next two are sabres and the last looks like some sort of smallsword.
Second Saber (third item): Hilt seems to be of late (possibly XIX century) variation of closed "Hussaresque" hilt (notice apparent lack of structural connection between guard and "pommel"). Lack of finger ring and stylisation make it quite late too.
There is overall design similarity to pattern 1921/22 military sabre , minus grip wrap and guard (strange slot design, maybe replacement fitted in later time?) , which in turn was based on earlier designs from before Napoleonic era.
Blade in turn seems to be very close to French 1822 Pattern sabre.
This item seems to have definite Polish influence. Lines are quite soft , I would be guessing civilian commission based on some historical piece- maybe a French blade rehilted in Polish-Romantic style by some exile.
There is overall design similarity to pattern 1921/22 military sabre , minus grip wrap and guard (strange slot design, maybe replacement fitted in later time?) , which in turn was based on earlier designs from before Napoleonic era.
Blade in turn seems to be very close to French 1822 Pattern sabre.
This item seems to have definite Polish influence. Lines are quite soft , I would be guessing civilian commission based on some historical piece- maybe a French blade rehilted in Polish-Romantic style by some exile.
The first sword appears to be a German/Austrian or Italian weapon of ca. 1550 +/- 25 years. Could be a 19th c. piece or a late marriage of unrelated parts. The reeded grip is interesting and the blade is gorgeous, but possibly shortened/tapered. My guess is that the parts are all 16th c. Great quality overall.
The last of the batch (with the knight head pommel) looks to be a French style officer sword with a spadroon blade likely of Solingen make. Timeline of the First Empire. I see these more often with the lighter dressy double edged foibles but this one has a sturdy fighting spadroon blade. Maybe meant for a French heavy cavalry officer parade type sword. I wish I knew the knot and if it is period. It is also very possible of being meant for another country but the hilt is French style, while the blade of Solingen origin.
The chunky slotted hilt hussar type is unknown to me as well but the fashion of slots runs post mid 18th century. There is a very interesting French made folding slotted hilt circulating and while probably off topic, was brought to mind by this hussar presented here.
The book plates were shared by Vincent here at myArmoury, I don't recall the title. Sorry, the last was saved as png and I don't remember why (click to download)
Cheers
GC
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The chunky slotted hilt hussar type is unknown to me as well but the fashion of slots runs post mid 18th century. There is a very interesting French made folding slotted hilt circulating and while probably off topic, was brought to mind by this hussar presented here.
The book plates were shared by Vincent here at myArmoury, I don't recall the title. Sorry, the last was saved as png and I don't remember why (click to download)
Cheers
GC
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Glen A Cleeton wrote: |
The book plates were shared by Vincent here at myArmoury, I don't recall the title. |
The plates are from Les armes blanches : sabres et épées, by Dominique Venner, published by Jacques Grancher in 1986. I think the book is out of print now.
The last two look like hilt 113 in Norman's typology, and it has been used all over Europe since the middle of the XVIIIth century. Indeed they were heavily used by French officers. There is a similar example here. Apparently the name for this form is boat-shell, maybe it can help your search. The markings on the blades and hilts, if any, may provide more detailed information than the blade and hilt shape for these...
Regards,
Jean: For reference, here's a German sword of 1500-1525.
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