Area: North Italy, Friuli Period:1320-1360 (I know, it's a period too long, but in the reenactment I partecipe the organizators don't know well which is the period we play)
Are this historically inaccurate?
http://www.medievalware.com/14th-Century-Knig...b0083m.htm
Edit: and what about this? http://www.medievalware.com/Milanese-Point-Ti...b0085m.htm
Sorry for the links.
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Second one is definitely ways too late for that period. First one might work.
And what about this http://www.bestarmour.com/arm_harness_1.html Code: RH 1.4 There are holes on the cannons, why? They have to be fixed to the coters with rivets? The rebraces stand alone or they have to be fixed to the pauldrons?
And this http://www.bestarmour.com/leg_harness_1.html Code:NL 1.4
The holes on the cuisses need to fix them to the belt or so?
Sorry for the multiple post.
And this http://www.bestarmour.com/leg_harness_1.html Code:NL 1.4
The holes on the cuisses need to fix them to the belt or so?
Sorry for the multiple post.
| Augusto Boer Bront wrote: |
| And what about this http://www.bestarmour.com/arm_harness_1.html Code: RH 1.4 There are holes on the cannons, why? They have to be fixed to the coters with rivets? The rebraces stand alone or they have to be fixed to the pauldrons?
And this http://www.bestarmour.com/leg_harness_1.html Code:NL 1.4 The holes on the cuisses need to fix them to the belt or so? Sorry for the multiple post. |
Augusto,
The holes are for tying them to your undergarment(s) (also known as pointing) or occasionally a belt of some sort. The under garment (called an arming doublet in some periods and other names in other periods) would have laces with points at strategic places. Those laces would be passed through holes on the armour and tied. That is a very common way of securing armour.
But are the things I posted right for the period?
| Augusto Boer Bront wrote: |
| But are the things I posted right for the period? |
They seem more appropriate to the last 1/4 of the century than the time period you're looking for.
Have you looked at period art for that time frame? Look at sites like www.gothiceye.com for effigies and brasses of the period.
Here is an effigy from 1379. It doesn't have solid arms and legs like you're looking at.
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Here's a rather nice effigy:
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With a gorgeous reproduction armour:
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Such a harness is slightly later than your period, but is the kind of thing you might want to try from the examples you've been showing. The benefit would be that the large amount of textile armour would be relatively easy to make as long as you can sew. Much easier to learn than the skill of making good plate armour...
[ Linked Image ]
With a gorgeous reproduction armour:
[ Linked Image ]
Such a harness is slightly later than your period, but is the kind of thing you might want to try from the examples you've been showing. The benefit would be that the large amount of textile armour would be relatively easy to make as long as you can sew. Much easier to learn than the skill of making good plate armour...
Augusto,
This site might be of use to you.
http://www.gothiceye.com/
Basically the articulated couter to rerebrace and vambrace appears around the mid 14th. While this is true the issue is that the different rerebraces, vambraces, couters, fans and lames change drastically even in the same time frame. I think looking at some effigies might give you some help in getting an idea what you are looking for.
Zac,
Wow that is a nice harness!
RPM
This site might be of use to you.
http://www.gothiceye.com/
Basically the articulated couter to rerebrace and vambrace appears around the mid 14th. While this is true the issue is that the different rerebraces, vambraces, couters, fans and lames change drastically even in the same time frame. I think looking at some effigies might give you some help in getting an idea what you are looking for.
Zac,
Wow that is a nice harness!
RPM
Ah, remember that these protection are combined with a sugarloaf great helm.
http://www.gothiceye.com/popup.asp?Ref=KN033
1337, they are the same
http://www.gothiceye.com/popup.asp?Ref=KN033
1337, they are the same
| Randall Moffett wrote: |
| Augusto,
Zac, Wow that is a nice harness! RPM |
Shamelessly stolen from this website: link
I really should remember to give credit for all the photos I flash about.
He is asking for some Italian stuff, that is different from the English depictions in a way. the 3 Osprey books are good sources, as they cover the mentioned area and timeframe.
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