I have a question about the Wallace Collection's iconic mounted German Gothic armour.

In Gladius XXI, 2001, pp. 233-256, David Edge and Alan Williams wrote:

It was probably the dealer Pickert who was initially responsible for ‘improving’ the armour
that had been sold to him at Hohenaschau, and perhaps, therefore, it was he also who
commissioned the undoubted restorations (Mann, 1962: A21, 9-15), including the regrettable
addition of such features as the brass bands on certain of the pieces… nowadays viewed as a
deplorable case of ‘gilding the lily’.

The authors don't mention which lilies were gilded. Was the sallet among them? In the two full-figure color photos I've seen the lower edge of the sallet appears to have a very thin. broad applied brass or bronze edging.The form of the edging is just barely discernible in the b&w rear view of the dismounted harness (see below). Can anybody describe that edging or supply a photo? Is it decorated or plain?Chased? Stamped? One piece or two? Flush-riveted? It appears to broaden at the sallet's tail. Does anybody else see that?

I'm working on a brass edging for a Milanese sallet in the style of ca. 1490. I have as one example the famous Rhodes sallet in the RA-Leeds, but nothing else. It looks to me like A21's sallet has an edging at least as thin (22ga?) and broad (.75") as that one.

Thanks for any help you can offer!

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At the Armour Study Day in 2001 I was able to handle the pieces of this armour, and all the brass borders are rubbish. It would be better if they had not been applied. The sallet is an interesting one; it seems to have originally had an integral bevor (making it a closehelm), which, sadly, has been removed.

The brass borders on the A21 are not just "applied" but in places are also recessed, so the surface of the brass is flush with the surface of the steel. The riveting is almost invisible.

As James said, it would have been better if the brass work had been avoided. It's plain, no decoration at all, and really doesn't add anything to the armour. It actually detracts because it give the viewer an incorrect impression of what a gothic armour should look like.

David Edge told me a few years ago that the gauntlets are complete fabrications and won't fit on human hands. Funky but very believable.

It's my belief the recesses for the brass were added, not extant. The types of recesses necessary to accommodate the brass don't appear on other non-trimmed helmets or other pieces of armour, so this is why I have this opinion. If there were a bunch, or even a couple, of helmets or other similar pieces of armour that had recesses that could have just been filled in with the brass trim, I might think the A21 began this way, but I'm really not aware of any later 15th c pieces with recesses that would do the job.

It is a shame really that they fiddled with the armour, but the armour is very composite anyway, so one can't examine it very closely expecting it to be a good example of armour of the period. If looked at in a general way, it gives a good impression, but like with most composite harnesses, the translation is somewhat lacking in the details.

Thanks, fellas!

What a site....I ask an impossibly obscure question about a famous harness and within hours get detailed answers from two folks who have closely examined that armour. :D

I think I'm going to go with this, shown here with rough finish at first fitting. Not great, perhaps, but better than plain, flat brass. Also, a first attempt can be replaced by a second, third, fourth, etc. I might add a decorative element to the brass rivets--a star, maybe, as I see star motifs in lots of Austrian art of the period.

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