Hello,

I've been reading through the forums the last couple of weeks and this is one subject I've not seen brought up. Or perhaps I just missed it.

Anyway, does anyone know of general weights for these three garments?

By aketon I mean that which was worn under mail, arming doublet under plate and a jack being a stand alone or cover.

Also the hose worn under plate (you see it plainly in the rear shots of complete harnesses, the back of the thighs). I assume this was padded as well? Or layered, I should say. How many layers before it begins to interfere with leg movement, bending of the knee?

That area seems to be very vulnerable/exposed.

Thank you, I apologize for so many questions.

I am not sure anyone has weighted the extant cote armors that are out there; most were for over armor anyway. My replica is maybe 2-3 pounds; no more than a winter jacket.

There is not evidence I have ever heard of for padded hose; the best you get is the reference to wrapping blanket material around your knees to prevent chafing in “How a Man Shall be Armed.”

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And he should wear a pair of hose made of worsted cloth. Around the knees should be wrapped ' bulwarks' of thin blankets to reduce the chafing by the leg harness. He should wear a pair of thick shoes, provided with points sewn on the heel and in the middle of the sole to a space of three fingers.

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Also a payre hosyn of stamyn sengill and a peyre of shorte bulwerkis of thynne blanket to put aboute his kneys for chawfygeof his ligherness. Also a payre of shone of thikke cordwene and they muste be frette with smal whipcorde thre knottis up on a corde and thre coordis muste be faste sowid un to the hele of the shoo and fyne cordis in the mydill of the soole of the same shoo and that there be between the frettis of the heele and the frettis of the myddill of the shoo the space of thre fyngris.

http://www.chronique.com/Library/Armour/armyd1.htm

This question is almost too broad. Are you looking for a certain period? Padded armour changes and evolves alot over time.

From 1st half of the 14th you have 3.1 pounds of cotton inside aketons from a Paris Ordinance and slightly later 2.3 in the great wardrobe rolls of England. This is just the inside stuffing. These seem to be worn with mail and other armour of the time.

You have padded chausses as well in this period throughout part of the 2nd half likely as well.

As James said finding weights on these will be hard for period pieces.

RPM

For, shall we call it 'arming hose':

http://www.freha.pl/index.php?act=attach&...mp;id=1069

http://www.freha.pl/index.php?act=attach&...mp;id=7732

Thank you James.