Bascinet klappviser
I am looking any information about klapvisier on photo above. Probably Germanisches Museum Nurnberg, but I am not sure about that.
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I don't know that piece, but it's amazingly similar to another one from Germany (I'll attach the picture below).


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German Klappvisier
Thorkil has just made a fine replica of a very similar one: http://thorkil.ovh.org/swiss_klappvisor_eng.htm

He could give you some information about the original that he used.

Paul
Both me and Igor know these two bascinets:
Hugh your is from Deutsches Historisches Museum and it's dated on 1350-1370 ( I'm sending another picutre of it).
The Thorkil replica is based on Klappenvisier from Valeria in SittenSion (Swiss).
And the one Igor posted - I'm sure it's from Nurenberg but's all I know about it.


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Paul Mortimer
Thorkil made that klappvisier for me... He made perfect helmet!

Klappvisier from Deutsches Historisches Museum lost during the II World War.

I have photos skulls of klappvisier found in Wroclaw (Bresslau):

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You are a very lucky man, Igor. It is a beautiful helmet!!!

Paul
The klappvisor is exactly from Nurnberg Germany National Museum! The visor near to the helmet is thought to be from another similar helmet.

See some more photos:


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Thanks Stanislaw
I think that helmet is not klappvisor. It can be similiar to the bascinet with a nose cover which was found in Sandomierz or another one found in Vistula near to Plock.
Visor:
Germanisches Nationalmuseum, Nuremburg, Germany
Inventory Number: W1567
Date: 1350-1400.
Publications: The Knight and the Blast Furnace. Alan Williams (p. 341)

Bascinet:
Germanisches Nationalmuseum, Nuremburg, Germany
Inventory Number: W1271
Date: 1350-1375.
Publications: "Plate Armour in Germany" in A Collection of Tracts on European Armour. Sir James Mann. (Fig. 2) The Knight and the Blast Furnace. Alan Williams (p. 340)
Hi
I am looking any information about this klapvisier. Especially I need another photos (en face etc).


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That ain't a Klapvisor, for starters. That is a hound's skull.

The Klapvisors were rather flatter and lacked the pointed snout.
Mihai Ionita wrote:
That ain't a Klapvisor, for starters. That is a hound's skull.

The Klapvisors were rather flatter and lacked the pointed snout.


Not correct. Klappvisier refers to the attachment not the snout shape. Centrally hung visors, whether snouted (houndskull) or rounded, are called klappvisier. You can have a snouted visor with central mount (klappvisier) or side pivots. The rounded ones are more often centrally hinged than not, but there are always exceptions. But the snout shape and mounting method don't have to go together. Don't confuse the mounting terminology with the snout terminology. :)
Ah. That just goes to prove, you live and learn.

Thank you for the academic takedown, Chad. :p
Does the non-houndskull bascinet visor have a name? I always call them shovel-faced bascinets but I have no idea if that's correct.
Globose?
The problem is that you have a large number of types of visors, both in general design and how they attach to the helmet itself. You have the pig nose, shovel faced and globose models and more.

Some one really needs to make a typology for bascinets....

RPM

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