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Tue 29 Apr, 2008 12:02 pm
Bayerisches XVIIIb Details
Posts: 9,570 Location: Dayton, OH
Tue 29 Apr, 2008 3:47 pm
Here is a pica from an old thread about this sword:
From:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=4219
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Posts: 967 Location: Michigan
Tue 29 Apr, 2008 8:23 pm
Here's a shot of the whole hilt, taken by our own Craig Peters I believe.
Dan
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Posts: 5,981 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Wed 30 Apr, 2008 6:36 am
That's what I needed. Thanks, folks! Not sure why I didn't turn those up in the search that netted the pommel photos...
When this steel was new and polished, this decoration must have been very subtle.
Posts: 9,570 Location: Dayton, OH
Wed 30 Apr, 2008 7:09 am
Are my eyes going batty? On the pic I posted, it looks like the center facet of the guard is gilded. On the pic Dan posted, the center facet looks like steel, while the outer facets are gilded.
Posts: 5,981 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Wed 30 Apr, 2008 7:35 am
Chad Arnow wrote: |
Are my eyes going batty? On the pic I posted, it looks like the center facet of the guard is gilded. On the pic Dan posted, the center facet looks like steel, while the outer facets are gilded. |
I think you're right, Chad. Looking closer, I think we may be seeing both sides of the cross. Note the old accession number on the left quillon in the photo you posted.
Very interesting....
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Wed 30 Apr, 2008 8:55 am
Hi, it looks like on one side there are two protuberances, any pics of that detail and why they are there?
Catch
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Wed 30 Apr, 2008 8:59 am
Lawrence Parramore wrote: |
Hi, it looks like on one side there are two protuberances, any pics of that detail and why they are there?
Catch |
I wondered about that, too, then realized they're the display supports.
Posts: 132
Wed 30 Apr, 2008 9:07 am
OMG, jokes on me LOL :lol:
Posts: 132
Wed 30 Apr, 2008 9:26 am
Hi, one thing i would like to know, with a pommel like this do you think they drilled it rather than punched it, punching through a pommel like this is not easy and tends to deform the work , so how did they do it?
Catch
Posts: 5,981 Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Wed 30 Apr, 2008 10:24 am
I've often wondered if part of the swordsmith's skill lay in calculating how much a pommel would deform during piercing and compensating for that in the initial shape of the pommel--say, vertically slightly oval instead of round if he wanted to end up with a round pommel.
Posts: 820 Location: Texas
Wed 30 Apr, 2008 10:27 am
Hey Guys...
Here is a closer view.
The really clear photo is by Craig Peters
ks
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Bayerisches Nationalmuseum, Munich
Detail of photo by Craig Peters
Posts: 132
Wed 30 Apr, 2008 10:37 am
Wow the display supports are really clear on this one :lol: nice photo.
Sean,
Maybe they used a supporting form, but really i have done a few of these and it is a long way to punch through, I lost the end of a punch once too :mad: but there again I was doing it by myself, i suppose it would be a lot easier with two, one with a nice big sledge hammer :eek:
I guess I am getting a bit off topic.
Catch
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Wed 30 Apr, 2008 1:35 pm
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