Does anyone know the maker of the “King Wladislas” harness?
Thanks in advance.
-Kirk
Which Wladislaus you mean. Czek King Wladislaus. Statue with harness from 14 century in Prague castel ?
There is more eventuality: Vaclav = Wenceslaus (very common statue with harness from 14 century).Kral Waclav (in current czech Vladislav) = King Wladislaus (statue with harness too) Wladislaw Jagelonsky = Wladislaus Jagello (harness picture).
There is more eventuality: Vaclav = Wenceslaus (very common statue with harness from 14 century).Kral Waclav (in current czech Vladislav) = King Wladislaus (statue with harness too) Wladislaw Jagelonsky = Wladislaus Jagello (harness picture).
Pretty sure that he means the Wladislaw/Vladislaus harness that's in Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight by Edge and Paddock, which surivives and which is 16th century, so I would bet it's this one:
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Vladislaus II Jagielo Hungaricus Bohemicus Rex. I don´t know where have harness statue, I would like see it.
Vladislaus (Bulgarian) have staute in Wawel in harness.
Vladislaus (Bulgarian) have staute in Wawel in harness.
I’m referring to Wladislas who ruled Bohemia & Hungary into the early 1500’s.
The harness style could be perhaps called transitional or early Maximilian. It has that overall shape but is non fluted.
I believe it may be part of the Wallace collection(?).
Thanks again,
-Kirk
The harness style could be perhaps called transitional or early Maximilian. It has that overall shape but is non fluted.
I believe it may be part of the Wallace collection(?).
Thanks again,
-Kirk
Hi Folks,
Sorry for this somewhat late reply to this thread. The Harness that you refer to is indeed in the Wallace Collection in London, (A.22) , ca. 1510. It is a beautiful harness, and one which I have been fortunate enough to examine. The lower legs are later restorations though. As I recall there are no makers stamps anywhere on this harness, Sir James Mann thought that the harness was possibly the work of Lorenz Helmschmied of Augsburg. I do not know on what evidence he based this idea, especially in view of the lack of any makers marks. Augsburg armourers usually used the town guild stamp of a pine cone on their armours in addition to their own personal stamps. This harness has none of these. And I think that in his supplement to the Wallace Collection catalogues in 1986, The late Vesey Norman dismissed the notion of its having been a product of the Helmschmied workshops.
I think that somewhere on the internet you can find an article by David Edge and Dr. Alan williams on this particular armour. The back plate, as I recall, was made of iron not steel, and is only some 0.9mm in average thickness!
Regards,
Russ
Sorry for this somewhat late reply to this thread. The Harness that you refer to is indeed in the Wallace Collection in London, (A.22) , ca. 1510. It is a beautiful harness, and one which I have been fortunate enough to examine. The lower legs are later restorations though. As I recall there are no makers stamps anywhere on this harness, Sir James Mann thought that the harness was possibly the work of Lorenz Helmschmied of Augsburg. I do not know on what evidence he based this idea, especially in view of the lack of any makers marks. Augsburg armourers usually used the town guild stamp of a pine cone on their armours in addition to their own personal stamps. This harness has none of these. And I think that in his supplement to the Wallace Collection catalogues in 1986, The late Vesey Norman dismissed the notion of its having been a product of the Helmschmied workshops.
I think that somewhere on the internet you can find an article by David Edge and Dr. Alan williams on this particular armour. The back plate, as I recall, was made of iron not steel, and is only some 0.9mm in average thickness!
Regards,
Russ
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