I'm not sure how to describe this adequately. This German site has combed through a bunch medieval manuscripts, an painstakingly categorized specific objects such as guitars, chausses, or axes. It's a bit tricky if you don't sprache deutsch, but from my initial findings this may be a treasure trove of images.
I recognized images from the Codex Manesse, as well as the Maciejowski Bible.
http://www.tempora-nostra.de/tempora-nostra/s...php?id=300
Awesome find. The topfhelm one has a medieval facepalm if I ever saw one!
M.
M.
hah! :D
This is definitely a work in progress, and there are some duplications, but it's very ambitious. I salute their efforts.
This is definitely a work in progress, and there are some duplications, but it's very ambitious. I salute their efforts.
I found these illustrations interesting. The technique used for tying a slot and split belt scabbard suspension was not at all as I had anticipated. It appears to me that one split portion is pulled through a single slot while the second is looped over and pulled through both slots. Does this mean that the sword and scabbard are supported basically by the friction and tight fit of the belts passed through each slot without benefit of a knot of any type?
I’m not really a fan of this type of suspension so I don’t own one. Perhaps one of you more learned and experienced 10th century guys could enlighten me somewhat?
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I’m not really a fan of this type of suspension so I don’t own one. Perhaps one of you more learned and experienced 10th century guys could enlighten me somewhat?
Attachment: 10.99 KB Attachment: 29.46 KBThat is not the only way of tying the suspension. One method looks like a shoe tie, but with a single loop. This is the method I use.
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| That is not the only way of tying the suspension. One method looks like a shoe tie, but with a single loop. This is the method I use. |
It would appear that your half bow technique of tying off the split belt would be a far more secure. The other way pictured doesn’t seem tied well enough to provide the security that would be required for an active warrior of the 10th and 11th centuries. Thanks for the info.
The reason I’m curious about this issue is because I’m starting to develop an interest in acquiring a good type X blade and I’m curious about possible period scabbard and suspension systems for such a weapon. As I mentioned I was never a big fan of that type of belt but the idea of a period appropriate type X and suspension is growing on me.
Jim Holczer
Student – Umbs School of Fence / Martinez Academy of Arms
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It would appear that your half bow technique of tying off the split belt would be a far more secure. The other way pictured doesn’t seem tied well enough to provide the security that would be required for an active warrior of the 10th and 11th centuries. Thanks for the info. The reason I’m curious about this issue is because I’m starting to develop an interest in acquiring a good type X blade and I’m curious about possible period scabbard and suspension systems for such a weapon. As I mentioned I was never a big fan of that type of belt but the idea of a period appropriate type X and suspension is growing on me. Jim Holczer Student – Umbs School of Fence / Martinez Academy of Arms |
Maybe the artist couldn't render that properly with paint?
M.
Nein Sprechen Sie Deutsch, but I was born in Landstuhl, Germany while my dad was serving his time in the U.S. Army after college. Thank you Gavin so much for this website, I've bookmarked it!
Sincerely!
Bob
Sincerely!
Bob
This is a great resource! I think most people would be interested in these options:
Schwert (sword)
Schwert Schwertscheide (sword & sword sheath/scabbard)
Schwerter (swords i.e. pics with multiple sword in them)
Schwertgürtel (sword belts, although technically can be translated as sword girdle)
Schwertgehänge (sword suspension)
Schwertgurt Schwertgehänge (sword belt and suspension)
Schwertscheide (sword sheath/scabbard)
Schwert (sword)
Schwert Schwertscheide (sword & sword sheath/scabbard)
Schwerter (swords i.e. pics with multiple sword in them)
Schwertgürtel (sword belts, although technically can be translated as sword girdle)
Schwertgehänge (sword suspension)
Schwertgurt Schwertgehänge (sword belt and suspension)
Schwertscheide (sword sheath/scabbard)
For more help on item descriptions, you can see here: http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=7685
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