Yes - but sorry:
Thatīs a "company secret" (of the museum). :\ I have to respect that! (I want a future cooperation with the staff of this museum!)
Kirk Lee Spencer wrote: | ||
You are right my friend... Thanks for the correction :D ks |
Actually I made two mistakes on this post...
The sword in question was not only Gundlingen (rather than Mendelheim) but it was in Grave 299 rather than 99.
The TOMBA site also has a color image of the sword as well as the gold foil.
The sword is 72.5 cm long and the bronze chape is 14cm wide
It dates from Hallstatt C1b (730-660 B.C.) The grave has a mixture of both male and female grave goods. It is believed that it is a mix of two graves 299 and 295 which is situated directly above.
Grave finds now in Museum of Natural History Vienna Austria
ks
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Gundlingen sword with gold foil from "mexican hat" pommel. Grave 299 Salzberg. Image source TOMBA
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Image from "The Hallstatt Sword of Bronze: on the continent and in Britain" by J.D. Cowen
The reconstruction of this sword is one of my next projects.
I have to buy the plated gold foil, the sword will be grinded and the hilt - the wooden parts - will be finished this week.
I have to use gold - itīs the only way to make a better sword then Jeroenīs one! :cool:
I have to buy the plated gold foil, the sword will be grinded and the hilt - the wooden parts - will be finished this week.
I have to use gold - itīs the only way to make a better sword then Jeroenīs one! :cool:
My "new" (refurbished second hand) hallstatt sword:
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Detailpics are very big, only linked::
Hilt, oiled and beeswaxed
Chape, antler-fixed (No finds of rivets in the chapes)
Decoration on the scabbard
All paintings with kaseine-colours.
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Detailpics are very big, only linked::
Hilt, oiled and beeswaxed
Chape, antler-fixed (No finds of rivets in the chapes)
Decoration on the scabbard
All paintings with kaseine-colours.
Steve L. wrote: |
My "new" (refurbished second hand) hallstatt sword .... |
That is a beauty, Steve. Well done.
(odd - at first, I could not get to your linked detail photos. I could only get to some advertising pages and some sort of log in page. But, when I started this reply, I was able to reach the links. I wonder why??)
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(odd - at first, I could not get to your linked detail photos. I could only get to some advertising pages and some sort of log in page. But, when I started this reply, I was able to reach the links. I wonder why??) |
Thatīs a prob with my pic-server - but after a few times "refresh" it should work!
That's an outstanding job Steve. It's nice to see others branching out into these less-covered areas. Very nice.
Ok, correct me if I'm mistaken, but does the workmanship in these very old blades seem to far surpass that of medievil swords? The tang flows as if one with the blade itself, not just like some necessary projection... Certainly got my attention!
Torsten F.H. Wilke wrote: |
Ok, correct me if I'm mistaken, but does the workmanship in these very old blades seem to far surpass that of medievil swords? The tang flows as if one with the blade itself, not just like some necessary projection... Certainly got my attention! |
Nice sword Steve :)
Very nice, Steve. Excellent workmanship!!!
Yesterday i get my new bronze Mindelheim-sword from Neil Burridge.
Looks like a very-well-preserved original blade! :eek: Authentic alloy, clear lines, i have only to drill the holes for the rivets, to hammer the angle-nail for the pommel and to carve the hilt (wood or ivory).
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(Source: http://www.templeresearch.eclipse.co.uk)
Itīs a 1000gr-bronze-monster, length 83cm!
I love it!
Looks like a very-well-preserved original blade! :eek: Authentic alloy, clear lines, i have only to drill the holes for the rivets, to hammer the angle-nail for the pommel and to carve the hilt (wood or ivory).
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(Source: http://www.templeresearch.eclipse.co.uk)
Itīs a 1000gr-bronze-monster, length 83cm!
I love it!
Steve L. wrote: |
Yesterday i get my new bronze Mindelheim-sword from Neil Burridge.
Looks like a very-well-preserved original blade! :eek: Authentic alloy, clear lines, i have only to drill the holes for the rivets, to hammer the angle-nail for the pommel and to carve the hilt (wood or ivory). |
Neil suggests on his site that he is going to cast bronze hilt components (or maybe I'm getting confused with another sword)?
Geoff
Thatīs correkt - Neil work at the 1:1-reco of the Kemmathen-sword. It was with bronze pommel and hilt plates. (The original is in the Archaeologische Staatssammlung in Munich.)
A pic of my one - with customized-by-me-anglenail (heated and hammered out):
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(Probs to see the pic? Try: http://www.archaeoforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=905&start=15 )
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(Probs to see the pic? Try: http://www.archaeoforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=905&start=15 )
Steve,
She's a deusey! Will you post a picture of the completed sword?
Doug G.
She's a deusey! Will you post a picture of the completed sword?
Doug G.
When iīve finished the sword, iīll post some pics.
Neil Burridge just send me an image of a mindelheim sword found the UK, the first one I've seen so far. It was found as part of the Llyn Fawr hoard, after which the last period of the bronze age was called (Llyn Fawr phase, 800-700BC). The sword is generally described as being iron, and the earliest occurence of iron in the UK. However, Neil noticed that the blade can never be iron, but has to be bronze. And I agree. The blade is far to crisp to be iron, and the patina is also typical for bronze. However, the hilt plates do look like they're iron! That's a pretty unique combination. So far I've seen bronze mindleheims with bronze hilt parts, iron mindelheims with bronze hilt parts and iron mindelheims with iron/bronze hilt parts. The blade looks very nice on this one, very close to the blade on the Kemmathen sword which Neil is selling.
One note: please don't redistribute the image. Neil asked for special permission for me to use it.
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Jeroen Zuiderwijk wrote: |
.... The blade looks very nice on this one, very close to the blade on the Kemmathen sword which Neil is selling.... |
itīs done (sorry, since 2006 i was a little busy):
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Hiltplates of hazlenut, glued with birchtar and riveted with bronze.
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Pommel of hazlenut too, hideglued on the hilt and fixed hot on the tang. Thereīs a bone disc under the bronze phalera for accurate pressure.
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Hiltplates of hazlenut, glued with birchtar and riveted with bronze.
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Pommel of hazlenut too, hideglued on the hilt and fixed hot on the tang. Thereīs a bone disc under the bronze phalera for accurate pressure.
:D Jeroen! Jeroen!
Is that a copy of Cheiftan of Oss sword in these picture, from your photo album :D :cool:
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Is that a copy of Cheiftan of Oss sword in these picture, from your photo album :D :cool:
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