Vince Matthews wrote: |
How would we catagorize the Higgins Armoury example? No decoration to speak of and a big ole spike and a lantern.Is it a lantern shield or a step towards a supershield ? To all the armourers here I would also envite comment on the two craftsmen theory,heres the link to the best pics I have found (www.rubens.anu.edu.au/raider4/austria/vienna/museums/ruestung/germany/index.php?page=3) For those of you waiting for a finished project the prelim. plans/patterns are drawn and are awaiting the budget department to give the go ahead to the materiel department so the guy with the hammer can start his thing.I'm off to research the lantern part of this thing so any info there would be a great help. |
I can't get your link to work. That's too bad; I was looking forward to seeing it.
Regarding terminology for the Higgins example: how about "lantern shield with spike"? Why does it have to be anything more complicated than that? :) It's clearly different enough from a standard lantern shield and I think that it warrants the qualifying "with..." statement for clarity. For comparison, the Lewerken book on the subject of combined weapons calls the Vienna robo-shield "Lanternenschild, kombiniert mit Handschuh, Stoβklinge, Klingenbrechern und Klingenfängerring".
So we could call the Vienna shield a "lantern shield combined with etc., etc." That shows there is some relation to simple lantern shields but shows a divergence from them that is definitely worth noting.
My caution about terminology was to 1) make sure we weren't confusing ourselves by using a generic term when being more specific would help and to make sure that 2) the use of that overly generic term didn't lead people to generalize and make assumptions about outliers simply because they had been lumped into a too-general category.
For example, let's take a 15th century sword. Everything about it screams Type XV--pointy, edges that run straight to the point without curves, an overall triangular silhouette, pronounced diamond cross-section--but it has a short fuller.
We could just call it a Type XV and be done. But some might see that and assume that since this Type XV is fullered, all the rest must be too. Or they might decide that because this sword is a Type XV and because there are many Type XVs, there must be many fullered Type XVs. Those are bad conclusions to draw and confuse the subject. :)
So we could call it "a Type XV with a fuller" or "an unclassified sword, like Type XV, but fullered) or something. That way, anyone familiar with the terminology can easily envision the characteristics, including the aberrant characteristics.
For the record, I think the Vienna shield is very cool. :) I just still can't imagine it being uber-useful, even though I'd love for it to have been so. How cool would it be to have an elite force armed with those in a night battle? It would be something straight out of a great fantasy film. :)
Until the features of the shield that might make it less than useable in combat start to hinder them.... :)