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Gabriele Becattini





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PostPosted: Tue 09 May, 2017 6:38 am    Post subject: kevlar anti cut gloves for trainig         Reply with quote

5 days ago, while training with a sharp knife, i have seriously cut my fingers,

i hava trained quite a bit with sharp weapons (solo practice against the pell of course), never had an accident, but now i'm going to think i need to add some safety factor,

i do not have a real experience with such a kind of gloves, but looking at some videos on youtube looks like if they are really protective against occasional cuts.

i need to simulate a training with bare hands so armoured gloves of some kind are not an option for me.

what do you think? someone has a real experience with anti cut gloves? could you recommend a brand? (not very expensive)


thanks
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Mark Moore




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PostPosted: Tue 09 May, 2017 12:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

If I'm not mistaken, I believe they use machine-welded chain mail gloves in the fish-processing industry for just such protection. You might look into something along those lines to suit your needs. Happy ......McM
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Gabriele Becattini





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PostPosted: Tue 09 May, 2017 12:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

yes Mark, there are also chain mail gloves but i was looking for an imput about something like that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-olFIoZx8TA
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J. Helm




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PostPosted: Tue 09 May, 2017 1:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I don't have any specific suggestions, but I believe there are gloves for police and security guards that are cut/pierce resistant for the purpose of searching people and not getting cut or stabbed by blades or syringes when going through people's pockets or luggage. There are a lot of commercial versions marketed as paramilitary gloves and I don't know how good they are, but if you can find out what brands actual police or security businesses use that may be as good of an endorsement as any.
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Shawn Henthorn




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PostPosted: Tue 09 May, 2017 2:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I have seen them used in the packing plants I used to work at and have played with them good deal...they feel like a slightly scratchier/ stiffer wool glove. They do give good cut protection. The only thing I have seen cut right through them are liver skinning blades but those things are a level of sharp only seen in your nightmares...all in all if you get some with grip added to the fingers and palm they should work well...also at the time I do know that spectra was more popular than the kevlar ones..hope that helps
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Ben Joy




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PostPosted: Tue 09 May, 2017 6:00 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Regardless of brands, check the ANSI level of protection that they're rated for. That at least gives you a 3rd party quality assurance rating. Ratings run from 0-5. Zero (0) is less than 200 grams of force in 25mm (1in) of movement (next to nothing) to cut the gloves while 5 is 3500 grams in the same distance of movement (quite a lot, actually) to cut through the material.

While the physics is a mess, at least take into consideration that a set of Kevlar gloves should be rated a 3 and is considered high protection. Any Kevlar gloves you're looking at that are rated less than an ANSI cut rating 3 probably aren't worth it. The chain-mesh gloves (many aren't really bulky enough to be considered like the heavy medieval armored gloves) are at ANSI cut rating 5.

You might want to look for cutting gloves made with Dyneema fibers. While I've never gotten to handle gloves made of the stuff (that I know of, had lots of different cut-resistant gloves at my old job . . . our OSHA department made us change them out constantly with new models), they're an ANSI cut rating 4 and are apparently extremely lightweight and provide a better "close to skin" feel over the chain mesh or thicker Kevlar gloves.

Although, as another note, reading reviews on protective gloves and their ratings, only the chain-mesh gloves are truly rated for puncture resistance, while all of the other common glove materials are rated for cuts (even if they can provide a modicum of puncture protection or have supplemental material coatings to provide puncture protection).

Sorry I can't provide a specific brand or type of glove, but I hope that at least helps you in your search for the right glove for you.

"Men take only their needs into consideration, never their abilities." -Napoleon Bonaparte
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