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Stefan Dragicevic




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PostPosted: Mon 07 Nov, 2016 8:56 am    Post subject: Fake or real antique swords?         Reply with quote

Dear all,

I am about to buy a set of katana and wakizashi, at least what I think they are. Lady says they are from Malaysia and from 17th century. I am attaching several pictures in order for you to give me opinion if they are legit or not, or what they might be.











Thank you a lot.
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Timo Nieminen




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PostPosted: Mon 07 Nov, 2016 1:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

They look like post-WW2 SE Asian fake Japanese swords. Definitely imitation Japanese WW2 gunto (army swords).

Malaysia is quite plausible (most I've see are from Indonesia), but 20th century rather than 17th. Don't see many of these, since Chinese-made fake Japanese swords have become dominant.

"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
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Stefan Dragicevic




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PostPosted: Mon 07 Nov, 2016 2:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

So if they are genuine Japanese WW2 gunto swords, what would be their price in this condition? She found them at garage sale and selling them for 250e
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Timo Nieminen




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PostPosted: Mon 07 Nov, 2016 3:34 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I don't know the gunto market, or how much of a hit the price would take from the poor condition. But these are not genuine WW2 gunto, but rather poor fake gunto.

A little time spent looking at authentic gunto will make the fakeness obvious: http://ohmura-study.net/900.html

"In addition to being efficient, all pole arms were quite nice to look at." - Cherney Berg, A hideous history of weapons, Collier 1963.
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Sam Barris




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PostPosted: Mon 07 Nov, 2016 3:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I agree with Timo. These are replicas, and not very good ones, and in terrible condition. Can't say what someone else would pay, but I wouldn't be inclined to pay anything for them.
Pax,
Sam Barris

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Stefan Dragicevic




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PostPosted: Mon 07 Nov, 2016 11:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you for help, my first opinion was that they were fake, but I am not anywhere near familiar with swords so I wanted to check Happy
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