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Joar Linde Neveling




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PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug, 2016 3:56 pm    Post subject: Modding a more "modern" sword into a viking age on         Reply with quote

Hey!
So this is my first post and it might be very stupid but ive got a sword from around 1300 (i think) and i want to make it look and feel like a typical viking sword from around the 900's. I looked up the measurements on replicas of viking swords and mine is nearly identical except for the guard and pommel. Im thinking about making the guard smaller and then do something with the pommel to make the cross go away. Does anyone have any tips or is this just a very bad idea?

Blade: 77cm
Thickness of blade just over the guard: 5cm
Handle: 12cm
I wish you all a very nice day!
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J. Nicolaysen




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PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug, 2016 5:58 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi, welcome,

I don't think it's a stupid post at all, but maybe any work you do to the hilt and pommel won't ever make the actual blade look like a viking sword. This one you have seems very tapered, narrow at the guard, longer handled and so on, while earlier swords didn't look like this. Type X and Type XI swords vs yours that seems more like a Type XIIa maybe.

Here is more about sword types
http://myArmoury.com/feature_spotx.html
http://myArmoury.com/feature_spotxi.html
http://myArmoury.com/feature_spotxii.html

But anyhow, what kind of material is the pommel and guard? That will help us know how they can be reshaped. How are they attached? Seems hard to get that round pommel shape to look like one of the classic viking pommels types. Here is more about pommel types: http://myArmoury.com/feature_geibig.html

So maybe you can take off the pommel and shorten the grip, and replace the pommel. Depends how much work you want to do. I don't think it's a stupid idea, but it may not be the right sword to start this project with. Good luck.
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Joar Linde Neveling




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PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug, 2016 6:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you so much for all the information!
I dont know what material the guard and pommel is made of but it seems to be pretty soft metal and it is not magnetic, pommel is being screwed on.
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PostPosted: Sun 21 Aug, 2016 11:25 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I don't know the maker, but it looks familiar. Judging from the rounded tip, I would say it's just a practice sword. If I were you, and had this, I would buy a cheap-cheap-cheap Viking sword replica and swap out the guards and pommels. It may take a bit of grinding and file-work though. Just my two cents worth.......McM
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Andrew Gill





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PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug, 2016 4:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

There were some later-period viking swords which had slightly more slender, tapering blades, but usually their fuller is rather wider than yours (at least a third of the blade width, often more) as well as slightly longer, and the blades of this era usually flare to quite a bit wider at the cross. Nonetheless if I were to try to modify this sword, I'd do something along these lines.
A possible example from the British Museum:
http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collect...amp;page=1
That one also has the added advantages of having a more slender, straight cross than many earlier viking-era swords, and an almost tea-cosy shaped pommel without big lobes, both of which would be simpler to make or modify. Maybe you could even cut down, file or grind and reuse the cross. The tip of your blade might need to be reground to taper more though, and making the fuller slightly wider with a half-round file or appropriately shaped grinding wheel also wouldn't hurt.
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Joar Linde Neveling




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PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug, 2016 9:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It is a training sword and was quite cheap made in india i think, well it sounds llike it would be quite hard to make it look like one due to the blade, Im most likely just going to save up for a higher quality sword than the on i have that will be a viking one.
I thank you all of all this great information!
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Joar Linde Neveling




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PostPosted: Mon 22 Aug, 2016 9:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Andrew Gill wrote:
There were some later-period viking swords which had slightly more slender, tapering blades, but usually their fuller is rather wider than yours (at least a third of the blade width, often more) as well as slightly longer, and the blades of this era usually flare to quite a bit wider at the cross. Nonetheless if I were to try to modify this sword, I'd do something along these lines.
A possible example from the British Museum:
http://www.britishmuseum.org/research/collect...amp;page=1
That one also has the added advantages of having a more slender, straight cross than many earlier viking-era swords, and an almost tea-cosy shaped pommel without big lobes, both of which would be simpler to make or modify. Maybe you could even cut down, file or grind and reuse the cross. The tip of your blade might need to be reground to taper more though, and making the fuller slightly wider with a half-round file or appropriately shaped grinding wheel also wouldn't hurt.


Sorry for double posting but what do you mean with reusing the cross?
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Andrew Gill





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PostPosted: Tue 23 Aug, 2016 2:44 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Joar Linde Neveling wrote:
Sorry for double posting but what do you mean with reusing the cross?


If the cross on the viking sword is not too different in width from that on your sword, you could cut the cross shorter and adjust its shape with some filing or grinding - at least that was my initial thought. On reflection, however, if the viking sword guard is too broad (and perhaps oval-shaped as many are) when looking along the blade from the point, then you're better off making a new one from scratch out of a piece of thick metal plate. I can't recall what that particular sword's guard/cross looks like from that angle though.
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Greg Ballantyne




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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug, 2016 7:09 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Whatever you do with it, this is a good first project. You'll learn things on a low risk effort that will be valuable later. And sometimes the overall result is greater than the sum of the parts.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Aug, 2016 1:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What type of metal is the guard and pommel? Does it have that brassy look to it as the picture suggests?
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