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Jordan E. Williams




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PostPosted: Wed 30 Mar, 2016 12:53 pm    Post subject: Prussian IOD 1889, Set 13 Questions.         Reply with quote

Last year I bought an IOD 1889, with a folding guard. It's handle had almost completely rotted away, and the Pommel cap, knuckle bow, and very end piece that threads onto the tang do not line up correctly. I'll attach some pictures of the way they sit in different positions.

With the knuckle bow "keyed" into the pommel cap, you can see there's a large gap in between the cap and the threaded end piece.

With the pommel cap pressed against the end piece instead, there is now a gap in the slot for the knuckle bow and it does not fit properly.
The tang and all other hilt components are all stamped with the number "13', as I understand it this is to mean they all belong in the same set? Any help as to why it does this, like a bent tang or knuckle bow would be appreciated.

His Imperial and Royal Majesty Hordan Vilhelm the Great, by the Grace of God, German Emperor and King of Prussia, Margrave of Brandenburg, Burgrave of Nuremberg, Count of Hohenzollern, Duke of Silesia and of the County of Glatz, Grand Duke of the Lower Rhine!
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Jeffrey Faulk




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PostPosted: Wed 30 Mar, 2016 2:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I suspect that when the wood grip core was in place, it held the knuckle bow at the proper spacing against the end-cap. This would have helped keep things from rattling. When the grip core rotted away and fell off, the knuckle bow sprang down a wee bit over time with wear. The grip core would also have helped keep the end-cap assembly tight together as well, when you include the leather or rayskin wrap that would almost certainly have been there as well.
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Jordan E. Williams




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PostPosted: Wed 30 Mar, 2016 4:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That would make sense, it does look a little like the knuckle bow has a crimp in it.
His Imperial and Royal Majesty Hordan Vilhelm the Great, by the Grace of God, German Emperor and King of Prussia, Margrave of Brandenburg, Burgrave of Nuremberg, Count of Hohenzollern, Duke of Silesia and of the County of Glatz, Grand Duke of the Lower Rhine!
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