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Ísleifur Helgason




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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar, 2016 2:26 pm    Post subject: Side mounted klappviser?         Reply with quote

A quick question for re-enactment veterans: Would i be scorned from the re-enactment community if i wore a side-mounted klappviser inspired by medieval iconography? The reason for this question is that i have heard side mounted klappvisers are more durable in combat then single-hinge.

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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar, 2016 4:07 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

klappvisier = folding visor

By definition, you can't have a side-pivoting one. Not all side-pivoting visors are hundsgugel (hounds mask) in form.

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Neil Melville




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PostPosted: Thu 10 Mar, 2016 4:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

If the visor pivots at the sides then it is not a klappvisier. But what is the problem? Since there is overlap between the two types of visor, both being used around 1370-80, with the side-pivoting visor continuing into the 15th century, you are OK to use the latter in re-enactment of that period. Have fun.
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Timm Radt




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PostPosted: Fri 11 Mar, 2016 1:18 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here an example of a visor that looks like a Klappvisor but that is actually side pivoting - from a fresco in Avio Castle on the border between Trentino and Southern Tyrol (Northern Italy).

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Philip Renne




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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar, 2016 1:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

So, just to clarify what we've learned in this thread with a very specific question (I'm creating a graphic novel and I want to be as accurate in my depictions as possible)- a minor member of the Czech gentry in 1414 would not likely wear a hounskull bascinet with a klappvisier visor attachment, but instead the side attaching type? The klappvisier would definitely have been abandoned post 1400?

Thanks for any light your expertise can shed.
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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar, 2016 1:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Philip Renne wrote:
The klappvisier would definitely have been abandoned post 1400?

Thanks for any light your expertise can shed.


http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4076/7265/

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Philip Renne




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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar, 2016 3:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ah hah- thanks- Manuscript Miniatures to the rescue once again!
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