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Max L




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PostPosted: Sat 27 Dec, 2014 7:53 am    Post subject: Looking for details on Patrick Barta's sheffield sword         Reply with quote

I was hoping that one of you folk may have links to information and pictures of the original museum piece that this Barta sword is based on. His information on it states that the original is located in Sheffield, UK.

http://www.templ.net/pics-weapons/151-sword/151-corpus-v.jpg


I really like this piece, very curious about the original.
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Jean-Carle Hudon




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PostPosted: Sat 27 Dec, 2014 9:10 am    Post subject: barta         Reply with quote

Look up the Abingdon sword. It seems to follow the same pattern, though I'm not sure about the decorative work Barta does. It's splendid work, I love it, but maybe it is a composite of designs he's seen here and there rather than a true copy.
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Mark Lewis





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PostPosted: Sun 28 Dec, 2014 9:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The original sword is described in "Some neglected late Anglo-Saxon swords" by David Wilson:

http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archiveDS...32_054.pdf

there are some photos in a separate pdf on the same website... Barta looks to have followed the original quite closely.
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Jean-Carle Hudon




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PostPosted: Mon 29 Dec, 2014 7:11 am    Post subject: great link         Reply with quote

Great link , Mark. Well written in depth article. Enjoyed that.
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D. Bell




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PostPosted: Fri 02 Jan, 2015 9:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is my sword, I am glad to see you like it.

The article Mark linked to was the only real information I could find on it, you can find the accompanying plates here. I first ran across this sword as an illustration in Hilda Ellis Davidson's The Sword in Anglo-Saxon England, and there is a full length photo in Ewert Oakeshott's Sword in Hand. I found a small photo of the hilt on the museum website, although it does not appear to still be there, regardless a direct enquiry resulted in them sending me a larger image. You can see the full image here, and a side by side comparison below.



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Jean-Carle Hudon




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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan, 2015 7:03 am    Post subject: as close as it gets         Reply with quote

Mr Bell's pictures show how true Mr Barta stays to the original design. Great piece.
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Max L




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PostPosted: Sat 03 Jan, 2015 11:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

D. Bell wrote:
That is my sword, I am glad to see you like it.

The article Mark linked to was the only real information I could find on it, you can find the accompanying plates here. I first ran across this sword as an illustration in Hilda Ellis Davidson's The Sword in Anglo-Saxon England, and there is a full length photo in Ewert Oakeshott's Sword in Hand. I found a small photo of the hilt on the museum website, although it does not appear to still be there, regardless a direct enquiry resulted in them sending me a larger image. You can see the full image here, and a side by side comparison below.


Thats incredible, thanks for posting!
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