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Cerjak JL




Location: FRANCE
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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov, 2014 11:27 am    Post subject: Late 16 th century helmet for comment         Reply with quote

Hello everybody,

I would like to open a discussion about this helmet who has some interesting combination of elements that I still have never seen in other helmets .
This Helmet has an articulating neck lame attached on the skull made in one piece and one single piece visor in the manner of an armet.
May be someone already seen something similar and could post here the pictures from an helmet with same way of construction.
Also I would like to learn more about his origine .
Any comment on it will be welcome.

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Cerjak



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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Sun 23 Nov, 2014 11:34 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

16th or early 17th c. closed Burgonet with 19th century additional visor after removal of the peak?
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Mark Griffin




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PostPosted: Tue 25 Nov, 2014 9:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The whole helmet looks very post whatever era its trying to be. Looks like its a 19th cent item made for collectors.

Pics of the inside ofthe skull and cheeks would be helpful.

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Cerjak JL




Location: FRANCE
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Nov, 2014 9:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mart Shearer wrote:
16th or early 17th c. closed Burgonet with 19th century additional visor after removal of the peak?

Hi Mark

From the same collection I bought in the same time this other helmet with alteration made for the gioco del ponte and my guess was that this helmet could be also with alteration specially made for the gioco delponte


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CERJAK



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Cerjak JL




Location: FRANCE
Joined: 22 Dec 2010

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Nov, 2014 9:48 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mark Griffin wrote:
The whole helmet looks very post whatever era its trying to be. Looks like its a 19th cent item made for collectors.

Pics of the inside ofthe skull and cheeks would be helpful.

Hi mark

I own several helmets from this period and this helmet whether built from some older parts reused( who is not uncommon in period armour) seems to me to be original based on the construction details also in hand this one seems for me legitimate.
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CERJAK



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Cerjak JL




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PostPosted: Wed 03 Dec, 2014 2:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mark Griffin wrote:
The whole helmet looks very post whatever era its trying to be. Looks like its a 19th cent item made for collectors.

Pics of the inside ofthe skull and cheeks would be helpful.


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