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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jul, 2014 6:34 pm    Post subject: Video-Art of Ringen: Martial Art of Medieval Europe         Reply with quote

At VAF, we made a video to promote the unarmed art of Ringen. Because as much as we love swords, gosh darn it, it's just as fun to drop our friends on their heads, too. Happy

Our real goal is to get more people excited to do Ringen, as we feel it's a fairly underrepresented section of HEMA despite it's importance historically for both combat as well as sport.

http://youtu.be/jS0gdSM7_6g

(I've been on a video making spree lately, as we also just did a HEMA promo for our school as well: http://youtu.be/KVQfKudAS0w )

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul, 2014 7:21 am    Post subject: Video - Art of Ringen: Martial Art of Medieval Europe         Reply with quote

I just watched that video. The combatants go through a series of exercises such as handstands, climbing ropes and push-ups. Ringen, however, looks more like judo or sambo to me.
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jul, 2014 12:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Video - Art of Ringen: Martial Art of Medieval Europe         Reply with quote

Shahril Dzulkifli wrote:
I just watched that video. The combatants go through a series of exercises such as handstands, climbing ropes and push-ups. Ringen, however, looks more like judo or sambo to me.


Well, the fact that you used both a Japanese martial art and a Russian martial art as comparisons just goes to show the age-old adage: The human body only moves so many different ways. Happy Just as messer fencing shares many similar actions with Escrima, and longsword fencing shares many similar actions with Iado, it's no surprise that historical Ringen shares many similarities with other grappling arts. If you do a cursory look over the various historical wrestling treatises from 15th and 16th century, you'll see a lot of overlap with just about any grappling art form.

This particular video happens to highlight our free wrestling, or in other words, our "sportive" training. It doesn't happen to show the "verboten" techniques (the forbidden moves, such as elbow and knee breaks). Those moves play a major part in the art, but historically were outlawed from free-wrestling for the obvious reasons of safety. You don't see them in Judo or Sambo either. Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 16 Jul, 2014 3:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Shares a lot with folk wrestling and of course abrazare, thank you for sharing! In armored sword, it's almost all grappling since you can't strike effectively. Nice production too.
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