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Matthew P. Adams




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PostPosted: Wed 02 Jul, 2014 8:28 pm    Post subject: Western "daisho"?         Reply with quote

Has anyone paired an Albion Talhoffer with the Constable to make a matched set? I just noticed the near matched furniture and blade. I'd like to to see that, if anyone's paired them.
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2014 2:27 am    Post subject: Western "daisho"?         Reply with quote

I also noticed that both swords are nearly similar except that there's also a brown-hilted Constable.
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2014 8:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

While they are indeed similar, one would think that two sword-length blades might be a bit much to carry around. The daisho was more often than not a katana or tachi and a tanto, rather than a wakizashi, which is IIRC a modernism (the pairing, that is, not the actual blade).

For examples of historic Western "daisho" sets check out some rapier and dagger sets. Very impressive in their own way Happy
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2014 11:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

My thought was to match The Talhoffer with The Lancaster.

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Matthew P. Adams




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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2014 12:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ooo! even better!

What would go with my Fiore? A Poitiers?

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J. Nicolaysen




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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2014 4:55 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well far be it from me to dissuade anyone from buying two swords rather than one, but a real "western daisho" would be closer to something like these: http://www.arms-n-armor.com/sets.html, both in time period and in style of swords. Exactly what Jeffrey said above.

That being said, you might as well buy two swords for any reason! Even if it would be difficult to use two longswords/hand-and-a-half swords with each hand.
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2014 8:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

How about the Knecht and the Soldat? Or, if you prefer, a Soldat and companion bauernwehr, or Soldat and by-knife?
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Jul, 2014 9:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Craig Peters wrote:
How about the Knecht and the Soldat? Or, if you prefer, a Soldat and companion bauernwehr, or Soldat and by-knife?


YUP.


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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jul, 2014 8:57 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The Baron and the Knight would make a nice matched pair too.

And since seeing that beautiful Katzbalger in the makers forum, I've been fantasizing about a matched zweihander and katzbalger combo. I think I've seen some big twohanders with the figure-eight shaped guard like a katzbalger, so I think it could be done really nicely.
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PostPosted: Fri 04 Jul, 2014 11:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You nailed that one , Nathan. Happy 4th of July!.................McM
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Ben Coomer




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PostPosted: Sat 05 Jul, 2014 7:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The Poiters and the Agincourt would make a very similar pairing.
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Matthew P. Adams




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PostPosted: Sun 06 Jul, 2014 8:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan, that is exquisite. Do you have suspension set for those?
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PostPosted: Sun 06 Jul, 2014 8:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Matthew P. Adams wrote:
Nathan, that is exquisite. Do you have suspension set for those?


No. I have no use for such things since I don't wear them. Also, there wouldn't be an integrated suspension for this type of weapon but it rather be tied to/strapped a belt. You can see the back of the scabbard here. It just has channels for a simple thong. The ends are tucked into itself to keep them out of the way.

See more here: http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=16826
And here: http://www.myArmoury.com/swor_alb_soldat.html



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