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Julian Arellano





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PostPosted: Wed 12 Feb, 2014 7:13 pm    Post subject: 13th century german chopper..         Reply with quote

Hi guys ...


I want to know something about this sword... I don't know exactly what it is.. seems like a two handed chopper to me but maybe I'm wrong.. there's no guard.. no grip...


And do you know where can I find something similar ?


http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/0004/bsb0...p;seite=20



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PostPosted: Wed 12 Feb, 2014 7:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Maybe a type of mace, instead of a sword?.............McM
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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Wed 12 Feb, 2014 8:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Compare to this example with hand guard.
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4373/7073/

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David Butchee




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PostPosted: Wed 12 Feb, 2014 8:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

To me it looks alot like the 'Medieval chopper' it appears several times in the Maciejowski bible.


Here is one replica of it:
http://kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=DT5133
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Julian Arellano





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PostPosted: Wed 12 Feb, 2014 8:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mart...

your post seems the right thing... so .. have you seen in the market swords like this without hand guard?... seems like a glaive sword..

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Gregory J. Liebau




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PostPosted: Wed 12 Feb, 2014 10:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mart Shearer wrote:
Compare to this example with hand guard.
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4373/7073/


Aren't we dealing with about a fifty year discrepancy between these two illustrations?
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Jeroen T




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PostPosted: Wed 12 Feb, 2014 10:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Itīs basically a Falchion like chopper, iīve handled one and itīs an awesome weapon.
You donīt want to get hit by one because the damage will be enormous, even with gambeson and mail.

http://www.celticwebmerchant.com/a-29885799/f...ki-bijbel/


http://www.celticwebmerchant.com/a-29886237/f...-falchion/


http://www.celticwebmerchant.com/a-24699624/f...ki-bijbel/
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Mart Shearer




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PostPosted: Wed 12 Feb, 2014 11:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gregory J. Liebau wrote:
Mart Shearer wrote:
Compare to this example with hand guard.
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4373/7073/


Aren't we dealing with about a fifty year discrepancy between these two illustrations?


Yes. And if you consider the Macijowski examples at c. 1250, The Willehalm at c. 1300, and the Alexander at c. 1350 we've got a full century spread.

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PostPosted: Fri 21 Feb, 2014 1:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

DelTin makes a couple-
http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...i+Falchion

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...d+Falchion



Stage Combat has one-

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...7%27+Blade


That's all available at Kult of Athena.


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PostPosted: Fri 21 Feb, 2014 1:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

There are like a million topics on that style of weapon too. Search for chopper...
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Michael Beeching





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PostPosted: Fri 21 Feb, 2014 1:57 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jeroen T wrote:
Itīs basically a Falchion like chopper, iīve handled one and itīs an awesome weapon.
You donīt want to get hit by one because the damage will be enormous, even with gambeson and mail.

http://www.celticwebmerchant.com/a-29885799/f...ki-bijbel/


http://www.celticwebmerchant.com/a-29886237/f...-falchion/


http://www.celticwebmerchant.com/a-24699624/f...ki-bijbel/


Neat! I've never seen those flavors of the Morgan Bible war cleavers before - it would be great if more makers were interested in producing them. I've seen the Del Tins and the Stage Combat repros before, but these look much better in terms of quality.
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