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Christopher B Lellis




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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov, 2013 1:50 am    Post subject: What type of blade "sword, messer?" would this be         Reply with quote

In the album section of this website there is this photo;


http://myArmoury.com/albums/displayimage.php?album=36&pos=23

A longsword blade on a messer hilt? That's interesting, I don't think I have seen that before.
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Mikko Kuusirati




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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov, 2013 2:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oh, there are straight messers like that, in all sizes.

The difference between a schwert and a messer is primarily a matter of hilt construction (essentially, sandwhiched tang = messer). IIRC, the distinction was made to settle a Renaissance copyright feud between the swordsmiths' and knifesmiths' guilds. Happy

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Christopher B Lellis




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PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov, 2013 3:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mikko Kuusirati wrote:
Oh, there are straight messers like that, in all sizes.

The difference between a schwert and a messer is primarily a matter of hilt construction (essentially, sandwhiched tang = messer). IIRC, the distinction was made to settle a Renaissance copyright feud between the swordsmiths' and knifesmiths' guilds. Happy


Well I learned something I never knew Big Grin
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Craig Peters




PostPosted: Fri 29 Nov, 2013 9:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Christopher,

I am pretty sure this photo is just a further away shot of the messer shown in this thread here: http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=29303
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