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Fabrice Cognot
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov, 2013 7:58 am    Post subject: Ballock Dagger, late XVth/early XVIth style         Reply with quote

Hi all

A bit of a work-in-progress here, as I am considering giving this dagger a scabbard, possibly with a by-knife.

This one is based on a variety of examples from various collections (but mainly the Musée de l'Armée in Paris).
The blade is carbon steel, with a mild steel guard sporting a nice patina, cherry handle and an acid etched brass plate. The latter was fitted on top of the handle using similar methods to what can be reconstructed form originals - namely, cutting, folding and squeezing the triangular bits, resulting in a tight fit.

OAL 350 mm, blade is 241 mm long and 7 mm thick at its base.

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov, 2013 8:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice work. I like the style of this piece very much. I've often wondered about but caps like the one you've recreated on this knife. It looks like fussy business, but you've executed it very well. It seems like it would be difficult to get it to seat well.

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov, 2013 8:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice....love the blade shape. Big Grin .......McM
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov, 2013 1:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello Fabrice!

Would you be so kind and post a bigger photo of the etched plate? I've seen Tod's interpretation -but if I remember corectly he used a casting. I've done simmilar buttcup, but using chisels, so yours is third method, probably the best looking one...

Thanks!

Oh, and one more question- why brass buttcap and steel guard, why not just one kind of metal?

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Nov, 2013 6:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

HI Fabrice,

another fabulous piece as we have all come to expect. It has all come together very well and really captures the style of the originals so well, but not just in appearance, but also in manufacturing methods - really good.

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Oh, and one more question- why brass buttcap and steel guard, why not just one kind of metal?


To modern eyes everything must match or contest as a statement and so this use of two metals can glare a little as 'not being right'. Our predecessors did not feel the same way and mixed metals on guards and pommels or other furniture is quite common.

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec, 2013 12:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks chaps.
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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec, 2013 6:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Do you find the need to score the metal on the inside of the cap to get the fold over?

Ilya has done some of this work here in the shop but I havent played with it for many years.

This is looking great. I love look of the wood.

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Dec, 2013 10:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Kerry

No need to score the metal. Just make sure it is soft enough.

And thanks Happy

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