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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jul, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Master Grade Realistic Sparring Weapons         Reply with quote

After having sparred intensively with Master Grade RSW for several hundreds rounds, we are very satisfied by the durability and safety they achieved. In order to make it the best of the bests, we will be implementing the flexible tip on every Master Grade RSW by default to further improve its durability and safety!

The following video play-list showed the Master Grade Deva Slayer 2.0 in intensive freestyle fencing action since it's birth. There had been 224 rounds so far. There was no repair done to the sword except taping one spot.

When new:
http://www.rsw.com.hk/0106.jpg

After 224 rounds of intensive sparring:
http://www.rsw.com.hk/ds-2.0-after-224-rounds.jpg

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgSwuDicuxI&am...CKaabfI3P8

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jul, 2013 4:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://youtu.be/MncKW6HDDbI

Practicing freestyle fencing with John who wielded Chinese military Dadao.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6BG5yf_SQ4
A tutoring session with DS 2.0.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jul, 2013 1:04 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Excuse me, Lancelot, I am very curious: what are Realistic Sparring Weapons made of and how were they put together? I have never seen practice weapons like them anywhere else and I wonder what caused you to make your trainers the way that you did?
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jul, 2013 11:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Michael Parker wrote:
Excuse me, Lancelot, I am very curious: what are Realistic Sparring Weapons made of and how were they put together? I have never seen practice weapons like them anywhere else and I wonder what caused you to make your trainers the way that you did?


RSW were padded sparring swords that feature weight and balance of the real swords they simulate. They were made of foam, fabric, plastic, aluminum, steel, wood, nylon and rubber. We assemble them at my place here.

We made them because in Hong Kong it's very hot and we don't want to melt down ourselves with plenty protective gears. With RSW you only need a helmet with face protection and finger protection, then you can go full speed sparring with something handling just like the real sword (same weight and balance). In addition it allows more freedom of movement and a free choice of targets without worrying that hitting somewhere not armored up.

Also, there were techniques in some martial arts better practiced with RSW than with blunt steel, like Chinese Fajing.

And some swords were better off sparring with RSW than with blunt steel too. For example, some Chinese war swords are quite heavy and relatively forward balanced, and would not be safe at all to spar with blunt steel.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmcwQfWDej0
Sparring with Yip, who was a local sparring contest champion and practices Iaido.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKPrifTdbuI
Sparring with Rico, a visitor.

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Aug, 2013 4:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://youtu.be/EW0ZtncQarY
Freestye Fencing with our epee fencer friend Ross Gascoigne, who wielded a rapier and try it out.

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug, 2013 10:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What does each person's percent number mean each time there is a match? Example: Ross 20% vs Lancelot 75%
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Aug, 2013 12:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Michael Parker wrote:
What does each person's percent number mean each time there is a match? Example: Ross 20% vs Lancelot 75%


Those are survival rate, not hit rate. So it's not likely to be 100% in total since a few double kills occurred.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgYfAGzsqk
Freestyle fencing with our Taiwanese friend Ji Gang, who practices sports fencing.

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Aug, 2013 7:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4IyNlwS2Es
Freestyle fencing with French visitor Jean Luc Ancelin who wielded with single sword + dagger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sff6DTuiAG0
Freestyle fencing with French visitor Jean Luc Ancelin who wielded with rapier + dagger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs5i30MVjzY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB85rTNXMT8
My student Dung vs Jean.

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Sep, 2013 5:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://youtu.be/OLFunj2_L_8
Freestyle fencing with a twin Chinese dao friend.

http://youtu.be/4S4RtmgZKfY
Freestyle fencing with advanced student.

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If I may, I would also recommend a cup. :P

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http://youtu.be/HTNpk-uj80U
Freestyle fencing with a student who studied in mainland China.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXQU7wSeZKE
He then also sparred with another student.

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http://youtu.be/Y0fQh_ntv5w
Freestyle fencing with a customer

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD_W5SgMKGw
Freestyle fencing with a long time good friend, since 7 years ago.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj5PLHwYscI
Freestyle fencing with an ex-student who wielded a Katate-uchi

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuTHe_jc_kk
Freestyle fencing with intermediate student Taku in modern material armor, taken as their actual protective value. Grey spot means the attack was defended by the armor.

Our armors were not totally sword proof as historical armor was, so good solid hits would likely to still have some effects, while the finer hits would be fended off by the pieces.

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PostPosted: Sun 01 Dec, 2013 4:47 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLWqqVqanOE
Armored freestyle fencing on slippery floor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD2QDi0se2o
Student test cut practice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6cGKvnK4lY
Student test cut practice, the third bottle was "armored up" by a dog-toilet plastic plate.

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PostPosted: Mon 02 Dec, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Lancelot, I appreciate watching all of your videos and mostly sending a reply since few seem to comment on them.

With armoured combat, the armour can be used to make all out power to be used safely in simulation non armoured fighting or can be used trying to use in armour combat techniques meaning that with swords in particular effective fighting would mean a lot of half swording and having to close into wrestling and the use of a rondel dagger.

I also notice that it's difficult to use a lot of " play at the sword " for more subtle techniques, a lot depends on timing one's attacks and controlling distance/measure.

One aspect which makes interpreting and understanding the action difficult, is that after a theoretically deadly and successful hit, the " loser " will still hit the winner because, to be realistic, the loser isn't really wounded or dead or incapacitated and can still hit you back .... also at the speed of the action the " loser " of the exchange just doesn't have the reaction time needed to " abort " his almost simultaneous attack or riposte.

One thing to try to keep in mind tactically would be to defend successfully from this counter attack by creating distance right after the hit or still concentrating on parrying: In a real fight, these " after attacks " can still happen as the opponent is rarely stopped instantly unless decapitated or seriously dismembered ..... in training and sparring a counter attack is almost unavoidable I think and has to be factored in when judging who won each exchange !

I must admit, that I rarely can see, or be sure who won just looking at the action, as it happens so fast and one would almost have to see it from multiple angles, or be there to feel the hits or misses and the time intervals between the successful winning hit and the almost simultaneous return blow by the " theoretical loser ".

In any case your videos are interesting and I'm sure at the speed you guys are going the extremely small units of time between hits and parries/responses make it hard to be exhibits of " pure and theoretical " fencing techniques.

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