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Jean Thibodeau




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PostPosted: Wed 29 May, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: Templar Companion Dagger GEN2         Reply with quote

Here is a review of my impressions of the Templar Compagion Dagger made by Generation 2 and that I purchased from Kult of Athena.

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...on+Dagger+

Really nice and agile dagger, the handle doesn't have the " Un-historical " steel spacers near the guard and the pommel that previous Generation 2 daggers and swords tended to always use on most of their product.

The blade heat treat seems good and it was paper cutting sharp out of the box it is now scary sharp with just a bit of a touch up with a diamond hone.

The statistics on the Kult of Athena site seem about correct except for the thickness of the blade that seems to me a lot thinner than the over 1/4" maximum thickness of 6.4mm and the minimum thickness of 3.9mm: I'm guessing that these thicknesses came from an error and from a different dagger.

But this thinner blade is a good thing: It's thick enough to be robust but not overbuilt.

In handling it's POB is at the guard making a very fast in the hand blade and very much a fast cutter and not a chopping blade: This blade in the hand would not slow down the hand holding it at all and the hand not slowed at all compared to an empty hand.

The handle is quite slim and why I put it next to an Albion Doge and a Cinquedea dagger to give a visual cue to it's mass.

The pommel is fairly small in diameter and looks very well proportioned to the rest of the dagger, but it's also fairly thick giving it some decent mass.
The guard slot fit is very very clean and precise and the gap much smaller than with many daggers or swords I've seen.

I was intending to re-cover the handle with a new leather wrap as previous Generation 2 handle tended to be fat, and covered with not very attractive leather: I like this one enough as is that I don't think I will want to do any DIY things to it.

Great customer service from Kult of Athena, as usual, and a few e-mails I sent to them because I had some questions where answered the very next day.

At $99.95 this is an excellent dagger that would be a " steal " at twice the price.

If I had to choose a dagger " in period " for selfdefense I think that this one would be among my first choices: It just feels that good in hand and inspires confidence.



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Next to my Albion Doge and a large Cinquedea dagger to give some scale.

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Nice proportions.

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The handle looks and feels nice.

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The handle is very slim.

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Jean Thibodeau




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PostPosted: Wed 29 May, 2013 7:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A few more pics of the dagger in close ups..


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Pean very clean.

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The gap beteen the blade and guard is very very small and cut very precisely.

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Shows the handle in comparison to my hand without hidding the handle too much.

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PostPosted: Wed 29 May, 2013 10:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Great looking dag, Jean! I've been eying one of these for a while now. Wow...that grip is thin, though. Wonder what would be good to get the cheese-lookin' fingernail polish paint out of the cross though? I really hate to see a fine product left to wallow because of a piss-poor decoration decision, but to me.............that red's gotta go. I'd rather see it in a subdued flat black. Thanks for the review, my friend. Gotta git me one!...........McM
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PostPosted: Thu 30 May, 2013 9:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mark Moore wrote:
Great looking dag, Jean! I've been eying one of these for a while now. Wow...that grip is thin, though. Wonder what would be good to get the cheese-lookin' fingernail polish paint out of the cross though? I really hate to see a fine product left to wallow because of a piss-poor decoration decision, but to me.............that red's gotta go. I'd rather see it in a subdued flat black. Thanks for the review, my friend. Gotta git me one!...........McM


Thanks, and I agree the paint in the cross is " cheesy " but it should be easy enough to file/sand/polish the paint out and maybe just cold blue the cross. ( Assuming the pommel isn't stainless steel ).

Since the pommel is quite thick one could also grind or file the side faces of the pommel to a flat surface and completely get rid of the cross.

Really an inexpensive dagger so having to do a little work on it still makes it worthwhile.

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PostPosted: Thu 30 May, 2013 2:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Being of Templar influence, the cross makes sense and should stay, IMO. But I agree, the red "fingernail polish paint" needs to go. I would think a solvent would do the trick.

Jean, I can see why you made the purchase. And indeed, K of A gives excellent service and offers a wide range of products. Thanks for your informative review.

Jon


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PostPosted: Thu 30 May, 2013 2:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The color may seem cheesy to us, but would it ever be "period" to add color? Makes me think of the subdued colors of the Sisteen Chapel ceiling which was just a result of candle soot; after cleaning off all the soot the paintings are bring and even garish according to some.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 May, 2013 2:32 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Coloring is ok, but on a more complex motif and it wouldn't be just painted on the engraved part of the pommel, it would be achieved with colored stones or something like that. And a simple cross would be inlayed with a colored metal wire.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 May, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'll be the odd man here - I'm attracted by the red cross. I've thought about buying the same dagger, not only because I consider Gen 2 to be great value at their price point, but because I like the red cross...... sorry......
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PostPosted: Thu 30 May, 2013 9:45 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

No need to be sorry.......Each to his own! Laughing Out Loud I like the cross too...just not the color. Wink Still a way-cool functional dagger!......McM
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PostPosted: Fri 31 May, 2013 9:42 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I personally don't really care strongly enough about the red paint to at this time remove it.

Oh, grinding down the sides of the pommel could make it a more generic dagger for those not wanting something more specifically Templar, maybe ? Wink

I also forgot to mention that it comes with a fairly decent scabbard with a rigid core, maybe fiberglass or wood, don't intend to take the scabbard apart to find out, and it's hidden by the leather cover anyway.

The dagger fits perfectly in the scabbard, not too loose and not too tight either: If one hold the scabbard with the dagger in it up side down the dagger doesn't fall out.

A simple chape at the tip of the scabbard.

No belt attachments but a leather lace could easily be tied around the top of the scabbard with a loops to hang from a belt or as a safety line to not lose the dagger if it's just put under a belt.

There are pics of the scabbard on the Kult of Athena site.

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...on+Dagger+

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