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A. Spanjer




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PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Claidheamh da Laimh Books?         Reply with quote

Most books on Scottish swords seem to gloss over the Claidheamh da Laimh and skip right to the basket hilts.

Can anyone recommend some books that cover the Claidheamh da Laimh in greater detail? I'm specifically looking for a book with images and measurements of different swords, particularly 17th century examples.


Thanks for the help!

Na sir 's na seachain an cath.
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Dan Howard




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PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 10:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Do we actually know that this is what they called their two-handers? I know that claidheamh da laimh is a logical term to use but does this word actually appear in any Scottish texts?
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Neal Matheson




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PostPosted: Mon 10 Dec, 2012 11:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Good question Dan, I haven't seen it in any period lexts and don't use the term to describe highland longswords/two handers. Wallaces book on Scottish swords has some good pictures and descriptions of Claymores;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Scottish-Swords-Dirks...amp;sr=8-1
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A. Spanjer




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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec, 2012 4:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Actually, I usually just call them two-handed Claymores. I used the term here to try to eliminate confusion and keep this thread from turning into another terminology discussion like every other thread about these swords. Laughing Out Loud

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out.

Na sir 's na seachain an cath.
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Neil Melville




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PostPosted: Tue 11 Dec, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I don't know of any text which uses the term claidheamh da laimh, but Claude Blair quoted it from Robert Armstrong's Gaelic Dictionary of 1825, in an article in the Journal of the Arms & Armour Society, Sept. 1998 (vol.XVI no.1). Nick Norman (late Master of the Royal Armouries) followed Blair in this usage, but both are now dead and cannot enlighten us any further as to the evidence.
Neil

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