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PostPosted: Wed 31 Oct, 2012 8:18 am    Post subject: Messer and Scabbard         Reply with quote

Hello all,

Here is another finally finished piece after a couple years sitting in the pile of "projects in process"

The messer is based on an example I stumbled upon in an auction house in Augsburg, Germany...however sadly it was not for sale and only a display piece. The by-knife and pick are made to match the messer but were not included in the display. The messer is hollow-ground and 24 1/4 inches long with the balance point around 2 inches, and the scabbard is constructed of two layers of leather. The technique used on the scabbard was an experiment in a more medieval approach of tooling leather. The technique I used was simply a warm sharply beveled dull knife on damp leather with a simple circle punch used for the back ground. I did not use any hammers in the detailing and it was done with a propane torch to keep the heat to the point just before the water would sizzle. Also the tooling of the scabbard was done post construction in trying to keep with the medieval process. I will post some pictures of the tools when I get back to the workshop but here it is...

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Oct, 2012 8:51 am    Post subject: nicely tooled tool         Reply with quote

That is a beauty Josh ! Very convincing 15th century ! Is there a source for working the leather damp with a heated tool ?Would love to indulge in this. I know my friend Martin Siennecki, the foremost leather worker in the 15th century re-enactment community used a heated needle on one of his scabbards with a fine sculpted result. Why did you chosse to have no wood in the scabbard at all ? Will it be sturdy enough ? FINE work !

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Oct, 2012 9:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oh hell yes...
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Oct, 2012 9:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This is just gorgeous! Great work! That tooling is out of this world...
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Oct, 2012 11:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Fantastic work Josh, really great work all round and it must be wicked with a hollw ground blade.

I too am interested in the sources for working teh leather with a hot tool.

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Oct, 2012 12:34 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Great work Josh!

Happy to see this :-)
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Oct, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Magnificent, both the metal and leather work.

Amazing scabbards here lately!

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PostPosted: Wed 31 Oct, 2012 8:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I love this, Josh!
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PostPosted: Thu 01 Nov, 2012 8:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I love it, it is very nice to see a messer with a different blade type, rather than the same old clipped-point type. Can we see a global view or get some more measurements?
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PostPosted: Fri 02 Nov, 2012 7:52 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Beautiful!

How thick is the messer blade?
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Nov, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice to the eye!
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Nov, 2012 10:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Fantastic Cool . Looking forward to see overall photos and dimensions.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Nov, 2012 9:55 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here are the measurements of the blade and complete sword:

Overall Length: 30.5 inches
Overall Weight: 642 grams
Grip length including pommel and cross: 6 3/8 inches
Cross width: 5 inches Thickness: 5/8 inches
Pommel width: 1 1/2inches Thickness: 3/4 inches
Blade thickness: 3/16 inches
Blade width at cross: 1 1/4 inches taper to 3/4 inches an inch from the tip

And here is the overall shot I have.
I will also address the leather tooling questions in another post where I will break down my process and include my sources.

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov, 2012 12:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Josh,

Glad you finally got to post these! Wink

Fantastic work ... and I still love the rivets.

Hope the Zombie pub crawl went well,

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Nov, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I was lucky enough to see this lovely messer in person when Josh brought it along to the Tournament of the Phoenix this year. I have to say that it is as excellent in person as it is in the photos. I believe the skill of the leather work is exceptional, not to mention the excellent work on the messer itself! It was great to meet Josh and I think he is a top bloke!
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Nov, 2012 1:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow, I find it interesting that the spine of the blade is so thin considering the hollow-ground blade geometry. It must have a simply wicked thin edge. I really love everything about it, that is my kind of weapon. Thank you for the dimensions.
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