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Paul Mullins





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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov, 2011 10:35 am    Post subject: GDFB Kult of Athena Maille         Reply with quote

Just out of curiosity, I thought I would ask opinions of this maille from those who own it. I am considering purchasing one of the alternating solid and wedge riveted hauberks, but I would like some input first.

Dan, I am well aware that this stuff is not 100% historically accurate Wink If I could afford Eriks maille, I would certainly buy from him.
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov, 2011 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: GDFB Kult of Athena Maille         Reply with quote

I asked a similar question before and the answer that I got brought me to decide on this one (until I can afford something by Erik.) I also received a good many PM's about the subject. We truly have some great resources on this site. Happy

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=...7%27+Chest

Here's that thread, if you'd like to review it:
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=22849

Paul Mullins wrote:

Dan, I am well aware that this stuff is not 100% historically accurate Wink If I could afford Eriks maille, I would certainly buy from him.


lol

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: GDFB Kult of Athena Maille         Reply with quote

Paul Mullins wrote:
If I could afford Eriks maille, I would certainly buy from him.


Who is "Erik"?

"...He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one." - Jesus, Luke 22:36
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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: GDFB Kult of Athena Maille         Reply with quote

Joshua Anthony wrote:
Paul Mullins wrote:
If I could afford Eriks maille, I would certainly buy from him.


Who is "Erik"?


You don't know who Erik is!? Surprised

He is the Maille Man! Laughing Out Loud

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PostPosted: Thu 03 Nov, 2011 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: GDFB Kult of Athena Maille         Reply with quote

Joshua Anthony wrote:
Paul Mullins wrote:
If I could afford Eriks maille, I would certainly buy from him.


Who is "Erik"?


Erik D. Schmid is a maille maker who is justifiably reputed to make the closest to period maille and very knowledgeable about maille of all periods.

This feature article by Dan Howard is a very good overview of the history of maille:
http://www.myArmoury.com/feature_mail.html

Do a search on this site about maille and things written by Dan in Topics he has initiated and in posts to other people's Topics and you should find some discussions giving more information about M. Schmid and opinions about period and modern reproductions of maille.

Oh, doing a search for mention of Erik D. Schmid might also be useful.

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Ray Guethler





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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov, 2011 3:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I own a haubergeon from Kult of Athena which is the alternating solid/wedge riveted. I love it. Looks great, is fairly light, and hasn't given me much trouble yet (see below).

The one drawback I had with this item was the nastiness it was covered in when it arrived. I know that it is a cheap and easy way for them to keep it rust free, but it required several soaks and washes to get the oil off of it. After a few hours of cleaning, I'm a very happy purchaser and would recommend it. Not exactly the highest end on the historically accurate scale, but for the price, it's tough to beat.
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Mick Jarvis




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PostPosted: Fri 04 Nov, 2011 6:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ray Guethler wrote:
I own a haubergeon from Kult of Athena which is the alternating solid/wedge riveted. I love it. Looks great, is fairly light, and hasn't given me much trouble yet (see below).

The one drawback I had with this item was the nastiness it was covered in when it arrived. I know that it is a cheap and easy way for them to keep it rust free, but it required several soaks and washes to get the oil off of it. After a few hours of cleaning, I'm a very happy purchaser and would recommend it. Not exactly the highest end on the historically accurate scale, but for the price, it's tough to beat.



i have some of the gdfb mail and i think it is great for what it is.. better then butted galv rings thats for sure.

and you said that you removed the oil it was coated in, what do you use/do to keep it rust free? with mine i didnt remove the oil and after i use it i just put more oil on it and give it a little shake to make sure its all coated
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Ray Guethler





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PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Honestly, you could put whatever oil on it you wanted to. I was just not a big fan of whatever they used prior to shipping it to me. It stank and covered anything it touched with a black residue.
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PostPosted: Sat 05 Nov, 2011 9:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure its just cheap petroleum bearing grease, applied warm. The gunk came off pretty thoroughly with a tumble in a plastic bucket of solvent. I used diluted degreaser designed for power washers. I rinsed that off with very hot water, laid the mail out on a pile of rags and blasted it with WD40, turning it over a couple times. The next day I sprayed it with light sewing machine oil and hung it to drip off the excess. I had all this stuff in the shop already so I used it. No rust, no black gunk on my arming cote.

Cheap paint thinner, turpentine, whatever would probably have worked as well. That would save the trouble of rinsing and blasting with WD40. Work with the stuff you have on hand or can buy cheaply.

If you don't care about your arming garment's looks, just tumble the mail in a bucket full of rag bits to soak up the excess. It won't rust with a light coating of grease left on it.
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