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Patrick Lawrence





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PostPosted: Fri 15 Apr, 2011 10:36 pm    Post subject: Pictures of painted great helms.         Reply with quote

Does any one happen to have any pictures of painted great helms? I am trying to come up with ideas for paint jobs for mine.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr, 2011 6:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

If you just mean solid colors there are many examples in art, but if you mean highly decorated I haven't seen any. Here's some in solid. http://www.tforum.info/forum/index.php?showtopic=6141
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr, 2011 7:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

There's this example, with black and gold decoration:



The Maciejowksi Bible also shows many helms painted in solid colors. Here's just one example.


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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr, 2011 8:39 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Yes the black and gold one from the features page on great helms is the one I will probably end up doing. But I had seem some that were painted two colors half and half down the middle. Just not sure how accurate it is. To bad most illustrations are only from the side Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr, 2011 5:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You know that black and gold helmet is even more interesting than I thought. I was getting together all the images I could find of it and enhancing them and noticed all the black decoration. I had missed that before just glancing at it. So it was really black gold and metal it looks like.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr, 2011 7:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

My wife's painted great helm. Based on the Macky Bible. The crucifix is gold leaf.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr, 2011 11:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the nice example Roderick.
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PostPosted: Tue 19 Apr, 2011 7:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well I finally got around to painting my great helm. It is not just a plain paint job but aged a little since it is ment to be used as a prop for illustrations. The lighting in the photo makes the weathering etc look more pronounced than it really is.


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Custom painted great helm based on this example. http://www.myarmoury.com/view.html?features/pic_spot_ghelm01.jpg (photo now color corrected.)

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Custom painted great helm based on this example. http://www.myarmoury.com/view.html?features/pic_spot_ghelm01.jpg (photo now color corrected.)


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr, 2011 12:13 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Patrick,

the paintjob looks very authentic. I really like the idea of painted helmets and will definitely paint my kettle helmet as shown in the Morgan Bible. I hesitated almost a year now, because I wasn't sure, if it will look "right".

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PostPosted: Wed 20 Apr, 2011 12:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Thomas authentic is exactly what I was going for Happy By the way the choice was easy for me since this was a super cheap used helmet I had cut apart some and redone. I think I have a total of about $19 in it.

Oh and like you I really like the painted look. Plus I like the rust prevention.
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A little late, but I did find some multi colored greathelms http://manuscriptminiatures.com/static/miniat...allery.jpg http://manuscriptminiatures.com/static/miniat...allery.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu 21 Apr, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Those are some interesting paint jobs Len. They are almost modern art like Happy
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Apr, 2011 12:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

So... since I had announced to paint my kettlehat in this thread, I thought, I could show the result here either. Well, it's no Great Helm, but nevertheless a great helmet Wink - at least for me. (If it's not suitable for this thread, please let it be moved).

I painted it with acrylic paint and applied a matte spray lack to make it waterproof. I gained some insight on how fast rust can work, while doing it. The day I began the paintjob was very hot and the sun burned down on my balcony and the paint dried almost immediately after applying. Well, then I ran out of white paint. The next day was somehow cooler, no sun shone at all... Well I applied the (waterbased) paint and after approx. 15 minutes there were small reddish dots of rust visible underneath the white paint! the metal had rusted while I painted it! So be aware if you use acrylic paint: do it only on hot days or use a hair dryer to dry the paint instantly.

Well, I let it dry and put several more layers of paint on it, and now it looks quite authentic, as if a medieval soldier had painted his helmet to protect it from beginning rust Big Grin

I used the Morgan Bible as a guidance (as I did with my infantry shield, shown here: http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/download.php?id=29551 )

So this is the result. As always are further suggestions appreciated!

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From the Morgan Bible, look at the right side, there is one helmet painted in red and white.

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My kettle hat, freshly painted.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Apr, 2011 1:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice! Any pictures of you wearing it with the rest of your kit?
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Apr, 2011 1:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Sander,

those will follow after the weekend. We are doing right now our easter camp - tomorrow and on saturday will be time to take some pictures of me in my kit.

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Apr, 2011 3:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thomas R. I like the look of your helmet.

The rust you mentioned is why I put on a layer or two of rustolem first. Then used acrylic gesso and paint on top of that.
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Apr, 2011 11:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Len Parker wrote:
A little late, but I did find some multi colored greathelms http://manuscriptminiatures.com/static/miniat...allery.jpg http://manuscriptminiatures.com/static/miniat...allery.jpg


I, for one, would like to see more helms like those, as plain steel, as nice as it is, gets rather dull after a time.
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PostPosted: Thu 28 Apr, 2011 11:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sam Gordon Campbell I agree plain steel gets boring at some point. And we have lots of evidence that they were painting and decorating their helmets.
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