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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Question about saber scabbards         Reply with quote

I noticed some scabbards for sabres have a strange "spatula" like attachment at the tip, where a chape should be.



Is it for anything? I figured it had something to do with how the scabbard is formed, but right now I figure it's just decoration.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Just a guess, but I think it's to reinforce the scabbard's tip.

Keep in mind that the scabbard is just a thin sheet metal tube, and the tip of the scabbard does occassionally bump into things.
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct, 2009 11:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I believe that bit is named the "drag" , perhaps that implies something Big Grin

Joking aside, I think it's designed to reinforce the chape. Despite the decorative aspect (besides the spatula, i've seen many ball shaped draga), it seems to be a mostly functional addition to the scabbard
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

As far as I know it serves a protective and decorative function. It is called a chape, shoe, or drag (as it does drag on the ground quite fashionably Happy ). Some flashy scabbards even have little wheels on the drag!
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jonathan Hopkins wrote:
As far as I know it serves a protective and decorative function. It is called a chape, shoe, or drag (as it does drag on the ground quite fashionably Happy ). Some flashy scabbards even have little wheels on the drag!


That would be worth a picture!
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PostPosted: Wed 07 Oct, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Timo Nieminen wrote:
Jonathan Hopkins wrote:
As far as I know it serves a protective and decorative function. It is called a chape, shoe, or drag (as it does drag on the ground quite fashionably Happy ). Some flashy scabbards even have little wheels on the drag!


That would be worth a picture!


Big Grin

http://www.michaeldlong.com/kolistB/1/0/111685.htm

A nice--but sadly shortened--HEIC officer's sword with wheeled drag. I would guess this is c. 1845-55.
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PostPosted: Thu 08 Oct, 2009 2:37 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jonathan Hopkins wrote:
Timo Nieminen wrote:
Jonathan Hopkins wrote:
As far as I know it serves a protective and decorative function. It is called a chape, shoe, or drag (as it does drag on the ground quite fashionably Happy ). Some flashy scabbards even have little wheels on the drag!


That would be worth a picture!


Big Grin

http://www.michaeldlong.com/kolistB/1/0/111685.htm

A nice--but sadly shortened--HEIC officer's sword with wheeled drag. I would guess this is c. 1845-55.


Very cute!

But can this really be called a drag? Surely roll or similar would be more accurate.

Still, it could be useful - for drag racing if nothing else.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Oct, 2009 9:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Aren't those caps supposed to jangle against the cavalryman's spur when the sword is slung in the lower position (the one used for riding as opposed to dismounted locomotion)?
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