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Michael Curl




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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jul, 2009 10:36 am    Post subject: How much did barding weigh?         Reply with quote

On average, according to wiki they way it was around 80lbs. But that seems a little light.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jul, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That's a little heavy granted the one in the met weighs that much but usually it weighed the same as the riders armour (55-60 lbs) IIRC. And you shouldn't ever trust Wiki

Will dig for some linkys

Here's some that may help you
http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=2644&highlight=

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=5183&highlight=

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=8766&highlight=

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=8023

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=8498

http://www.myArmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=8633&start=0
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Michael Curl




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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jul, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I was under the impression medieval armour ranged from 45-75, so 80 doesn't sound too high. Considering it was four a horse (bigger target) I assumed it was thicker.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Jul, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Plate is pretty thin thickness isn't the point the point is to provide a glancing surface that deflect the arrow/blow/bolt/ball/ etc.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jul, 2009 7:02 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Before we go on, I can't help feeling the need to ask one thing: what specific kind of barding?
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Michael Curl




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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jul, 2009 10:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Lol, once again my lack of knowlegde hinders this discussion.

It depends. How prevelant was barding? What types were prevelant? If mail was common then how much did that weigh, if plate was more common (I assumed it was) then how muc did that weigh.

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jul, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You also need to specify a time period and region. There was no plate barding before the 15th century. Middle Eastern horse protection differed from Western European stuff and Asian armor was different again.
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jul, 2009 4:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Well I know really nothing about barding so do you have a good source (perferably online) that I could use?

I heard what you said about plate barding beinga 15th century thing, but was barding (in western europe) ever popular?
And before plate what did they use? Mail? Padding?

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jul, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What era/date do you mean for Barding? (pre-plate)
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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jul, 2009 11:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

12-14 century (and the changes that happened during that time).
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PostPosted: Tue 04 Aug, 2009 11:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The third volume of Guy Laking's compendium:

http://www.archive.org/details/recordofeuropean03lakiuoft

may be largely outdated, but its overview on the development of horse tack and barding still seems to be quite good.
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