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Fredrik Egemalm




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PostPosted: Tue 03 Feb, 2009 12:30 am    Post subject: Seeking photos of German great helm         Reply with quote

Hi!
I need some help to find some picture/paintings of German great helm (c.1370) to have over my Klapp Visor Bascinet.
/Fredrik

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PostPosted: Tue 03 Feb, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I changed the topic title to be more informative.

Did you check out our Photo Albums?

Also, did your read our article on Great Helms?


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Fredrik Egemalm




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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb, 2009 12:07 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/ufarm/ufarm_2.htm
What do we know about this (Stechhelm) helm? Have anyone seen something like this anywhere else?

I look for a safe and good locking late 14th .c tilting helm.

/Fredrik
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb, 2009 4:42 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Fredrik Egemalm wrote:
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/ufarm/ufarm_2.htm
What do we know about this (Stechhelm) helm? Have anyone seen something like this anywhere else?

I look for a safe and good locking late 14th .c tilting helm.

/Fredrik
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It looks very much like tilting great helms of the 15th century. It has a reinforcing wrapper, but the shape is still very much of the "frog-mouth" style popular later on. It's more developed than the Hawberk and Henry V helms which are slightly later.

It's odd (to me, at least), to see such a pronounced shape on the helm's front like that in the late 14th century. That pronounced forward sweep of the helm around the occularium is a feature of later helms. For comparison, check out Henry V's great helm:



It is slightly later than the Hohenklingen effigy, though it's likely earlier than the time of Henry's death. The area below the eyeslit sweeps forward, but not the top. As we get later, the sweep becomes more pronounced:



If that effigy is contemporary with Hohenklingen's death, then it would seem to be a somewhat early appearance of a form popular later on.

Here's an effigy from c. 1379:



Note how traditional the great helm is compared to the Hohenklingen example.

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