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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr, 2008 1:44 pm    Post subject: The "I-Beam" blunt longsword         Reply with quote

The photos for this are:

http://gallery.mac.com/christianfletcher1#100699

This is a very nice handling blunt longsword, handles like a couple current "legacy line" longswords, the 1506 and 1521 come to mind. However, the edge is 1/4 inch thick at the base, 1/8 inch thick at the tip. Looking down the fuller, you can see where the nickname came from {a local longsword enthusiast named it, and the name stuck}.

The piece in the photo is going to Valiant Armory as a prototype for the forge in China. However, it'll be 8 to 12 months before we see production, so this also is/ was the prototype for the blunt longsword at CF's site. I'm going to make 10 to 12 in the year before the blunts arrive from China. Shortly, the "Arming Sword" blunt will available too, this should weigh about 2lbs.......

Fuller not finished, machine marks still visible under the black. The idea is to keep the price of the introductory pieces down.

Am making blunts for backsword blades too, similar philosophy......

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This looks promising. I like the blackening on the low contact/ low maintenance portions. Good idea!

Could the final version be fine tuned (probably just a choice of a rounded cutter bit) into more of a "dumb bell" shaped cross section without adding too much cost? I am really only thinking of larger radius's on the inside to avoid stress concentrations on the interior of the "I beam", and more polished rounding of the tip and edges. The picky customer could borrow an angle grinder and take care of the exterior squared edges themselves (being careful of heat.) Overall, that looks to be sound engineering for economy Any rough (+/- $100) speculation on the price point?.

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Jared Smith wrote:
This looks promising. I like the blackening on the low contact/ low maintenance portions. Good idea!

Could the final version be fine tuned (probably just a choice of a rounded cutter bit) into more of a "dumb bell" shaped cross section without adding too much cost? I am really only thinking of larger radius's on the inside to avoid stress concentrations on the interior of the "I beam", and more polished rounding of the tip and edges. The picky customer could borrow an angle grinder and take care of the exterior squared edges themselves (being careful of heat.) Overall, that looks to be sound engineering for economy Any rough (+/- $100) speculation on the price point?.


Hi Jared

The interior radius of the fuller is .375 inch. You're not going to gain anything increasing the radius over that...... And, yes I do, CF has the details...*g*

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Apr, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Gus,
That looks quite promising! How would you describe the flex of this in a thrust?

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Apr, 2008 9:12 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bill Grandy wrote:
Hi Gus,
That looks quite promising! How would you describe the flex of this in a thrust?


Like a longsword.......... It will flex a bit, but if you go at someone's facemask full power, full speed, he's going to be pissed. CF did a test against a facemask, and didn't go thru. The blade did flex a bit..... but the conclusion was that you don't want to be on the receiving end of this........ Not without some operator contol.

The idea is that you'll be able to do the winding etc that a longsword should be able to do without the blade flexing away. And the blade will be quite durable, and not cut anything. And its less rigid than a wooden waster.... but its still something to use with care.........If you pop someone in the head with a cut, and all the protection one has is a fencing mask, you got a head injury. If you do the same with one of these with a thrust, you might wind up with a neck injury, or maybe a sore face or mouth. Good head protection is advised....... good armor is advised........

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