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Oliver Wiegand




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PostPosted: Sat 11 Aug, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Interesting pictures of a ballistic test         Reply with quote

Some interesting pictures of a ballistic test with a crossbow, warhammer, sharp sword, a "morgenstern"/mace ? and a "hakenbüchse" gun cal. 22mm (sorry but I do not know the English word for hakenbüchse...) vs. chain mail, harness and helmet seen at following links:

The equipment:

http://www.hollywoodritter.de/bilder/2007/gal...sstest.htm

The test:

http://www.hollywoodritter.de/bilder/2007/gal...t_dreh.htm

some more pictures of the location where the ballistic test was made (a blacksmithshop for wrought iron work in south Germany):

http://www.hollywoodritter.de/bilder/2007/galileo/schmiede.htm

The full test was aired in German TV at the beginning of the year. Unfortunately I missed the programm and the show was not rebroadcasted...
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J. Lee





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PostPosted: Sat 11 Aug, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Interesting, although it might have been more better if they shot at longer distances.

Hakenbüchse is harquebus.
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Joe Fults




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PostPosted: Sat 11 Aug, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Neat series of shots.

Also I'm sure it was fun to do too.

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Oliver Wiegand




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PostPosted: Sun 12 Aug, 2007 2:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

J. Lee wrote:


Hakenbüchse is harquebus.


Great, thank you. That was the word I am looking for.

@all

by the way: I have found the pictures of the test by surfing in web at the beginning of last week. After seeing the location and the warhammer I decided to contact the guy who runs the blacksmith shop. And yes, part of his buisness is creation of medieaval weapons (made to order). He was very friendly and even sent me a hardcopy catalogue (quite impressive) of some of his medieval arms and armour creations. But he told me that he can do everything and the photos in his catalogue are from client's orders in the past. He needs only a picture and a detailed description.

We agreed that I can visit him in September. His company is not so far from Munich. After the visit I can send a detailed report of my impressions of his work here in this forum. (if desired...)

For more details here is his webpage (there is an english version of the page available, too )

www.lonetalschmiede.de
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Steven H




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PostPosted: Sun 12 Aug, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nifty stuff. And plenty of neat pictures.

I am curious about the specs on the armour. How thick? Material? Construction of the mail/

Thanks. The harquebus was impressive Big Grin

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Oliver Wiegand




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PostPosted: Sat 08 Sep, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Steven H wrote:
...How thick? Material?...


Hi,

I've been there in his forge, yesterday.

The tested breastplate and helmet are still there as items on display.

Thickness of breastplate and helmet is 2,5mm. The material is mild steel.

By the way:
After seeing his great work I could not resist to order a sword. Happy
We discussed following: 1,5 handled, blade length 90cm (slender blade), s-formed cross-guard, wheel pommel and satin matt brushed.
A little bit inspired by the swords seen in the paintings and drawings of Albrecht Dürer.
Delivery date should be by end of october /beginning of november. I'm so excited...Wink

After receipt I will post some pics here.

Best

Oliver
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Martin Wilkinson





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PostPosted: Sat 08 Sep, 2007 11:24 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What kind of lock is it on the Harquebus?
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Oliver Wiegand




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PostPosted: Sat 08 Sep, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Martin Wilkinson wrote:
What kind of lock is it on the Harquebus?



Unfortunately the harquebus is not there anymore and I did not ask him about the lock of the harquebus.
But I can ask him next time.
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Gordon Frye




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PostPosted: Tue 11 Sep, 2007 8:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It looks to be a matchlock of Indian manufacture, probably a good 100-200 years old. It's a good sized one too, and with the proper powder charge would be a good model for just such a test. Not many armours could stand up to a full-sized musket at close range like that.

Cheers!

Gordon

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